Hardy, Dwan, CJ, Davis and Kuechly for probowl

[CRA]

There is nobody challenging Kuechly for DROY right now. Maybe at the end of the season, but right now he would win it.

DE - Chandler Jones - 33 tackles, 6 sacks, 3 FF

MLB - Bobby Wagner - 72 tackles, 2 sacks

CB - Casey Hayward - 32 tackles, 4 INTs

MLB - Luke Keuchly - 77 tackles, 1 INT

I got Luke currently 4th....stock rising though. I actually argue the opposite, season ended today he wouldn't win.....could if he continues playing like he has since he got the MLB gig.

[jtnc]

Won't happen unless we win 6 of the last 8 at least.

Heck I don't think Keuchly will get DROY unless we start winning more. Which is a shame.

Beason went to the pro-bowl during our 2-14 season....

[CPF4LIFE]

None of those guys games have really stuck out that much or changed the whole look of there defenses, Luke was drafted 9th overall, he was picked to win it before the season even started and if you look at his stats he hasnt really done anything to change anybodies mind. Our defense is top 5 since he moved to the MLB spot and no 100 yard rushers. Its a hype game, just like with RG3. Hyped for success before he even stepped on the field. He is gonna be the first guy they look at when they sit down and check then numbers. No way he is 4th.

[jtnc]

We have been 4th in total defense, since week 5.

[carolina-chuck]

None of those guys games have really stuck out that much or changed the whole look of there defenses, Luke was drafted 9th overall, he was picked to win it before the season even started and if you look at his stats he hasnt really done anything to change anybodies mind. Our defense is top 5 since he moved to the MLB spot and no 100 yard rushers. Its a hype game, just like with RG3. Hyped for success before he even stepped on the field. He is gonna be the first guy they look at when they sit down and check then numbers. No way he is 4th.

You sure about Bobby Wagner?

[CRA]

None of those guys games have really stuck out that much or changed the whole look of there defenses, Luke was drafted 9th overall, he was picked to win it before the season even started and if you look at his stats he hasnt really done anything to change anybodies mind. Our defense is top 5 since he moved to the MLB spot and no 100 yard rushers. Its a hype game, just like with RG3. Hyped for success before he even stepped on the field. He is gonna be the first guy they look at when they sit down and check then numbers. No way he is 4th.

Well, if you only look at since he became MLB I would have him higher......but you can't. If the season ended today, I don't see how you could put him ahead of all 4 of those guys. If just looking at October, he would be 1.

[carolina-chuck]

he has 52 tackles in the 4 games he's started at mlb since beason got hurt so if he keeps at that pace he'd finish with 181 tackles this season which is crazy.

Yea I was going to go that Way with the math since he took over at MIKE but didn't wanna do the Math and appreciate your math. 182 is crazy!

[carolina-chuck]

After watching Cam.... dont want another Panther to ever play in that game.

Well really who cares if they make it bc it's starting to look like there's going to be no more Pro Bowls anyway. Just the recognition.

[Cary Kollins]

I thought I heard the probowl was going to be cancelled anyway.

[CPF4LIFE]

You sure about Bobby Wagner?

Bobby Wagner is a great player but if you put him in the pro bowl you might as well put every seahawk defensive player in there too, they have pro bowlers at every position. Take him and put him on a team like the Saints with a terrible defense does he still make the same impact? Dont know, but i dont see at big improvement. He got drafted to a team that was already top 5 in defense from last year. Luke went to a team that was terrible in defense and the LB position specifically last year and he has improved us greatly. That makes him stick out more.

[rayzor]

After watching Cam.... dont want another Panther to ever play in that game.

100% agreed.

i've felt like that for years.

probowl is a joke on many levels, but it's also a completely unnecessary risk in a compeltely meaningless game.

i like my panthers too much to expose them to that and i just don't think it's worth it.

[KissMyConverse]

Beason went to the pro-bowl during our 2-14 season....

Won't argue that but Beason was a known name. CJ and Hardy deserve it.

Keuchly does as well but this is what I am talking about here.....

Pete Prisco (Who is a complete jack hole) but also national media....

"-- Bucs rookie linebacker Lavonte David had 16 tackles against the Raiders. He might be the best rookie defensive player in the league."

Its an uphill battle for any Panther player to get anything positive said about them this year.

[Jackofalltrades]

I don't think CJ has a shot because of JPP, Tuck, Peppers and other popular names.

I don't think anyone but Smith has a realistic shot and I doubt he makes it as a result of our record.

[jtnc]

Won't argue that but Beason was a known name. CJ and Hardy deserve it.

Keuchly does as well but this is what I am talking about here.....

Pete Prisco (Who is a complete jack hole) but also national media....

"-- Bucs rookie linebacker Lavonte David had 16 tackles against the Raiders. He might be the best rookie defensive player in the league."

Its an uphill battle for any Panther player to get anything positive said about them this year.

Prisco has been had a hard on for David since the draft....called him the next Derrick Brooks before he even played a snap. But you also have to take into consideration the Boston media LOVES Kuechly.