So no posts about leadership?

[antame]

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Don't give us that crap. When cam plays well...IE Atlanta...he gets hated on...just stop with the rewriting of history...

Oy. Do you want a successful Panthers team or do you just want to rally behind a black QB simply because he's a black QB?

Look, I fully believe Cam's our guy and he's going to be fine - and we're turning the corner.

But please stop it with the racial crap.

[Avacashay]

Not sure about the others, but I was trying to! I got his point and to some degree, he is right! The attacks on his leadership is a little unfair being he is in his second year, but i understand why the attacks are there. You can tell he has never dealt with much team adversity so it's going to be awhile before he can appropriately "put the team on his back." But I will also say that it would probably take a talented white QB less time to be a team player instead of wanting to be an "entertainer and icon"! Cam should get it, but it's gonna take him awhile

[Zod]

We are all racist bro...we are white. Where the fug have you been almighty race god KT?

No race was mentioned in this thread until you posted this gem.

3 days vacation. Deletion next time.

[Zod]

OP is a dumbass.

48 hour ban

[albiechaser]

Sheeeeeeeet pickles could have beat the Skins today, lol take a look at some of the teams that put points up on that D this year,

lets talk after the Broncos game,

BUT GOD it sure felt good winning today, I want MORE

[Floppin]

Not sure about the others, but I was trying to! I got his point and to some degree, he is right! The attacks on his leadership is a little unfair being he is in his second year, but i understand why the attacks are there. You can tell he has never dealt with much team adversity so it's going to be awhile before he can appropriately "put the team on his back." But I will also say that it would probably take a talented white QB less time to be a team player instead of wanting to be an "entertainer and icon"! Cam should get it, but it's gonna take him awhile

Really guy? Really?............................Ugh.

[Zod]

I noticed Cam was looking at the field photos on the sideline yesterday. That needs to be happening not just when things are going well, but especially when things are not going well.

When Cam throws an interception and heads to the sideline demanding to talk to Shula and look at the photos is when Cam really starts to mature in this league. The hang your head and pout routine by yourself on the bench needs to go, far too much for him to learn still.

[MadHatter]

I just made it back home to Charlotte awhile ago. Drove from Cary/Raleigh area to Charlotte about an hour after the game. And Im absolutely shocked in that time nobody has made a post talking about Cam's leadership. No commentary about his presser after the game? How did he do? Was he pouting?

Where is TonyN?

Where is 2jakefans?

Where is Highlandfire?

Where is Pantherclaw?

Where is MaulClaw?

For weeks when we lost, everything hinged on Cameron's "leadership", where are the people who psychoanalyzed that? Why nothing to add when we win? Or comments about the "intangibles" Cameron displayed today?

I gave significant props to Cam's performance yesterday (both on the field and leadership) in several threads. He looked like the QB that we came to know and love last year. He was smiling....had his swag back...celebrated with his team mates in the endzone after they made TD's....was interacting with coaches and players on the sideline. In short, he looked EXACTLY like the franchise QB and leader that many knew/hoped he would be when we drafted him.

You saw this team rally around him and each other yesterday. They looked like they were actually enjoying the game and were EXPECTING to win late in the game....rather than waiting for something bad to happen again.

This team is a couple of plays away from being 6-2 and they played like it yesterday.

Chicago....Smitty slipping and the Pick 6

Seattle....the horrible pass to Hartsock that would have been a TD

Atlanta....either the unfortunate Cam fumble or the terrible coverage on the hail mary

Dallas....the terrible int in the endzone or a handful of defensive let downs

Hell, we even had the ball down by 6 late in the TB game.

This team is close and yes the season is over in regards of the playoffs. But, they have shown over the past few weeks that this team DOES NOT need to be blow up....only tweeked. Cam IS our franchise QB. We need a change at HC and OC....we likely will purge some vet salaries (Beason is a possibility as is DWill).

I am glad to see that this team and Cam have NOT mailed it in and are going to make the last half of the season fun to watch.

[King Taharqa]

But Zod we determined in this thread Cams play has 0 to do with the defense. They are an entire seperate entity. We couldve had Pickles out there and our championship D wouldve carried us.

Cams sideline demeanor/presser demeanor was the EXACT same yesterday as it has always been. Cam posts a 100 qb rating and leads us to our first road win over washington in franchise history and we're worried about etiquette? I dont remember this proper etiquette stuff when Moore was our QB. Who were our leaders yesterday? So I know whos gonna carry us against Denver.

[Zod]

Cams sideline demeanor/presser demeanor was the EXACT same yesterday as it has always been.

I disagree.

When things are not going well, Cam shuts down. I watch it from the sidelines week after week. I see it with my own eyes.

True leadership is shown in your actions when things are tough, not when things are going great.

[Dpantherman]

Some of you are hypocrites. When we lost and Cam had great stats all I heard was "wins over stats". Well we won and you can't have it both ways.

As far as demeanor he hasn't been consistent, but he was just fine last week (and he played good last week on defeat as well)

[Zod]

KT,

Go watch the video that James Anderson did last week.

I asked Byron Bell specifically who the leaders were on the offense. His answer? Gross and Smith.

I am the one that had to bring up Cam when leadership was the question.

I think Cam does have the tools needed to be a great leader, but pretending like he is one now isn't doing him any favors.

[King Taharqa]

I disagree.

When things are not going well, Cam shuts down. I watch it from the sidelines week after week. I see it with my own eyes.

True leadership is shown in your actions when things are tough, not when things are going great.

I disagree, I think Cam's "leadership" is a convenient scapegoat for fans of a bad franchise.

I think people overanalyze Cam's "etiquette" because he's a hard worker and has to perform well for us to win. He is not Jake Delhomme, stop expecting him to be. He leads by his play and by example and always takes the fall for "unheralded" guys that so many on this board wanna prop up when things go good, but wont mention when we lose.

[Zod]

I disagree, I think Cam's "leadership" is a convenient scapegoat for fans of a bad franchise.

I think people overanalyze Cam's "etiquette" because he's a hard worker and has to perform well for

Oh, I am not saying it is the reason why we lose at all. There are many reasons why we lose. Cam's leadership is pretty far down the list.

I am just saying there is a great deal of room for growth in Cam.