So no posts about leadership?

[Kuech Da Sneak]

That still doesn't mean they played the way they played today because Cam didn't turn it over. To even suggest that, as you did, would be as disingenuous as the Cam haters & trolls have been the past few weeks.

[Fox007]

QB play often does dictate wins and losses, but that has little to do with leadership....which is what I thought the thread was about?

Cam has won games with poor leadership before....

I'm not actually arguing that Cam didn't show leadership today but he needs to keep that poo up and not just 1 game it.

He damn sure didn't inspire the defense though....that's completely laughable.

[King Taharqa]

That still doesn't mean they played the way they played today because Cam didn't turn it over. To even suggest that, as you did, would be as disingenuous as the Cam haters & trolls have been the past few weeks.

I just credit Cam's play and leadership with the win. I dont think thats disingenuous. He scored 2 TDs had a 100 QB rating. Its not like the guy didnt score and had 110 yards passing. As our leader, he has the biggest impact on our team.

[King Taharqa]

He damn sure didn't inspire the defense though....that's completely laughable.

So next time he throws a pick in the 2nd half of a game, we're not gonna blame him for the defense wilting at the end of games? Deal? Since he has NOTHING to do with how they play.

[Fox007]

So next time he throws a pick in the 2nd half of a game, we're not gonna blame him for the defense wilting at the end of games? Deal? Since he has NOTHING to do with how they play.

Are we talking pick 6 or what?

[Fox007]

If Cam throws a pick I'm going to blame him for a fuging pick, unless its a tip/drop like Olsen had today....wide open drop...

[SuperMan]

OP is a dumbass.

[King Taharqa]

Are we talking pick 6 or what?

Shouldnt matter. Our defense is carrying us and winning games remember? The Bears withstand Cutler's pick 6's and INTs all the time and get wins, so our D should have no problem too right?

[Jackofalltrades]

uh....not sure I can give Cam credit for the D play today. D was on the field a long time today. Since the offense did not put this game away....I think credit for the D is someone/something else.

It's a way for KT to rationalize going balls deep on Cam. KT is to Cam what bin Laden was to Islam.

[King Taharqa]

OP is a dumbass.

No commentary on Cam's leadership today? Is it even possible for you to see human qualities/intangibles in a person like Cam Newton? I think you are incapable.

[Fox007]

So next time he throws a pick in the 2nd half of a game, we're not gonna blame him for the defense wilting at the end of games? Deal? Since he has NOTHING to do with how they play.

Some of this is super asinine bro...

If Cam throws a pick on his own 30 yard line for example, that is basically at least 3 free points that will go against the defense.

Anyone with half a brain would contribute that to Cam. Same thing would happen if Smith/Williams fumble in our own territory that leads to the opponent scoring.

It's called common sense honestly...

I think your beef is with the extreme Cam haters and is taking you a bit out of context.

FWIW Highlandfire did post an apology thread...no TonyG though like you said.

[SuperMan]

Can't read your posts kt as I put you on block.

[rodeo]

No commentary on Cam's leadership today? Is it even possible for you to see human qualities/intangibles in a person like Cam Newton? I think you are incapable.

Can't read your posts kt as I put you on block.

There ya go brah

[SuperMan]

You mean consistent lack of leadership? Sure.