8-8 record and keep Rivera. Or 3-13 and get good draft position?

[TheGreatestOfAllTimeCam]

Finish 7-3 and shithead gets one more year

[BeasonBeastingBacks]

5-11 and do both :)

[mwright350]

5-11 and do both :)

At 5-11 I wouldn't want him or his staff kept around.

If the 2004 team can come back from 1-7 to finish 7-9 then we need to at least see enough gumption out of this team to improve on our record from last year.

[hepcat]

I'll take an 8-8 team that shows improvement. 3-13 would still be an improvement over where I expect the team to finish.

[Ivan The Awesome]

IF the players play for Rivera and they get to .500, then it's clear Rivera should stay. If they tank the season and just give up on him, goodbye RR.

It all depends on the next few games. the next 4 games will determine how this team is feeling and if they are going to fight or just give up.

[rayzor]

fug draft position. The players are gonna play to win (as well they should).

this times a million.

i want this team winning.

i don't want a team that is satisfied with losing.

i hope that this team can turn it around. i hope that they don't have to go through another major overhaul.

if this team loses out then you can count on this place being an even more miserable place for players to come and you can count on cam and others not wanting to stick around.

players don't want to play for a losing team unless they are desperate and they are usually desperate for a reason.

sure....i know you get all these shiny toys in the draft but what guarantee is there that they will pan out and do you seriously want this team to have 4 or whatever rookie starters again?

meh...i've had enough losing.

let this team win. i don't care what it does to the draft. let these guys develop some pride.

[mwright350]

this times a million.

i want this team winning.

i don't want a team that is satisfied with losing.

i hope that this team can turn it around. i hope that they don't have to go through another major overhaul.

if this team loses out then you can count on this place being an even more miserable place for players to come and you can count on cam and others not wanting to stick around.

players don't want to play for a losing team unless they are desperate and they are usually desperate for a reason.

sure....i know you get all these shiny toys in the draft but what guarantee is there that they will pan out and do you seriously want this team to have 4 or whatever rookie starters again?

meh...i've had enough losing.

let this team win. i don't care what it does to the draft. let these guys develop some pride.

Pretty much this.

I want to see wins. Drafting high does not guarantee success. And teams that are perennial winners rarely draft high and still win.

Get wins - get wins - get wins.

[chef17]

2010: Let's lose guys we need the 1st pick. Give us a QB and this team will go all the way.

2012: Let's keep losing guys. The past 4 seasons haven't been enough. We just need one more top ten pick I can feel it.

[R0CKnR0LLA]

The one scenario I really want to avoid is continuing to look terrible (maybe even getting worse) but finishing with 3-4 wins and missing out on a top 2 pick that could net a huge amount in a trade because of a tie breaker or something. If we do continue to suck, let's suck JUST enough to get a top pick.

[R0CKnR0LLA]

2010: Let's lose guys we need the 1st pick. Give us a QB and this team will go all the way.

Well, imagine if we picked 2nd overall and ended up with Blaine Gabbert.

[PantherTrain84]

Pretty much this.

I want to see wins. Drafting high does not guarantee success. And teams that are perennial winners rarely draft high and still win.

Get wins - get wins - get wins.

Ok but it also depends how we win and who we beat. If we play a Falcons team this year that are playing half ass after clinching the division a week prior like the Texans last year, thats not a true win. No beating the Chiefs and Raiders dont count. Those kind of wins are head fakes. Im talking REAL wins.. A win against the Bears at soilder field, THATS a win. A win against a Eagles team still fighting for a playoff spot and in contention? Thats a win. A win against a Manning led Broncos, thats a win.

I mean we beat last hear the Bucs, a Texans team half assing with TJ Yates, the Colts, the Jags and the Redskins with Beck at QB. Screw those paper thin wins. Im sorry, but if it comes down to either beating the crappy Chiefs or Raiders or landing a top 3 pick, im taking a top 3 pick all day long

[PhillyB]

i want a top five pick but i don't want to sit through the games that'll get us there

[chef17]

Well, imagine if we picked 2nd overall and ended up with Blaine Gabbert.

I had no problem getting the first pick. I just don't understand how fans want to lose season after season after season to keep getting high picks.

[HeatCheck]

If we had the choice, I'd like to win out.

But it's not like we have a say in this and we look to be destined for a top 5 pick.