Shockey

[Munch4455]

I know a lot of you probably don't want to talk about this today given Hurney's offing.

But do you guys think that losing Shockey was a bit of a bigger loss than anyone really realized. This offense is almost identical to last year, yet it seems as though they fold in a lot of tough situations. I think we honestly miss the fire, passion and edge that Shockey brought to the team. I couldn't see him just sitting around on the sidelines when we are getting embarassed, I just picture him trying to hype up the team or start a fight with the opponent.

[chknwing]

no because in this new scheme, we dont throw the ball to the TE anyways.

[Dex]

Identical? Our base offense is the read option this year... Are you high?

[Keith Moons Liver]

Almost identical players maybe, but very different schemes.

[megadeth078]

Beating a dead horse here....

2 TE set was our base offense last season. Can't run that with only 1 TE. Yes, losing Shockey was huge.

[Munch4455]

Almost identical players maybe, but very different schemes.

So must of our runs last year weren't read options? Must have been watching the wrong Panthers. By virtue of what you are saying, you are saying the team implemented a completley new offense in this offseason which isnt even close to true.

[Carolina Husker]

Yes. Until this morning when Hurney got canned, there wasn't a more inexplicable member of this team than Barnidge.

[AceBoogie]

We miss Shockley period

[Keith Moons Liver]

So must of our runs last year weren't read options? Must have been watching the wrong Panthers. By virtue of what you are saying, you are saying the team implemented a completley new offense in this offseason which isnt even close to true.

I don't know what you were watching last year. All I know is you are wrong.

[TopCat]

Shockey for GM

[CRA]

Shockey was easily replaceable......

But we hurt us moving away from 2 TE sets. Cam needs mid range options. Not just one. So that has been huge.

[BeasonBeastingBacks]

Moving away the 2 TE set has hurt, but I wonder if its because Chud is a complete dumbass or that Barny/Hartsock haven't really done enough to warrant get on the field often.

[Achilles]

The 2 TE "Coryell" downfield passing game was so money last year that they thought they'd put it on the shelf. Clearly not signing Shockey was a huge error as the entire system has morphed into this ugly cluster-fug of read option garbage.

The effort NOT to re-sign Shockey was essentially a harbinger of this 1-5 season and the Hurney sacking. It didn't have to be Shockey, but Barnidge just can't give you the veteran savvy needed in the Coryell system. That TE needs to be a monster blocker and a crisp route runner. He needs to have toughness, experience, and a little swag.

Shockey was the epitome of this offense last year. Mike "oops, I dropped the pass" Tolbert is now the epitome of this year's failure.

Hurney is the one to blame. Then Chud, the Rivera.

[TopCat]

Lafell can be a solid mid range guy if they give him the opportunity.