So a friend of mine killed himself...

[stirs]

Often times that funny lovable exterior is just a way to cope and cover up what's inside

Sorry for your loss of a friend

Actually, this echos the exact thing I was going ot mention. Sometimes the "always happy" folks are covering some stuff that they just can't deal with. Could explain the constant partying also. Hate it for you and the rest of his friends.

[Mr. Scot]

Sorry to hear it. Condolences from me as well.

[ladypanther]

So sorry to hear this James. Anytime some takes their own life it is a tragedy, not only for them, but for the people they left behind. It is something that haunts those who cared about the person forever.

Burning....have to believe that was under the influence of something. I still would wonder about an accident.

I am very sorry for the loss of your friend. I agree with others, hope you have someone to talk to.

[Darth Biscuit]

It's always tough when someone you're close to passes, esp if its unexpected and even moreso for a suicide.

My business partner passed last year and it took me months to process the fact that he just wasn't there anymore.

You have my condolences, I know its not easy.

If death is weighing on you, definitely find someone to talk to.

[SZ James (banned)]

Bath salts are a helluva drug

btw...suicide is a permanent solution to (most times) a temporary problem.

Really helpful thanks :rolleyes:

[SZ James (banned)]

Often times that funny lovable exterior is just a way to cope and cover up what's inside

Sorry for your loss of a friend

Yeah clearly he was more disturbed than what he projected on the outside.

Still bothers me though that he had none of the supposed "warning signs"

http://www.webmd.com/depression/guide/depression-recognizing-signs-of-suicide

[Hawk]

Panthro nailed it in my opinion

I know I've been pretty deep down in my life and if I'm going to be honest with you fugers...and I already said I've never touched fake boobies, how much more honest can you get than that...but anyway...I've had dark thoughts about doing myself in when I was younger and I know I masked my own pain and grief by acting out and trying to be the comedian...failed...and all of that too.

James, very sorry for your loss. Don't feel any guilt...if they didn't want you to know, you weren't going to know!

[Guest Bwood]

Panthro said it,

The funniest most outgoing people are sometimes the ones that hurt inside the most. They'll never show any signs before something like this happens.

I don't understand why or how he would burn himself to death though. Sorry for your loss man, life is crazy.

[thefuzz]

Sorry to hear.

Thoughts are with you.

[NanuqoftheNorth]

Had a similar situation with a classmate that was doing better in school than any of the rest of us. She stayed late one afternoon to run off copies of her study notes to provide to entire class for the next days big exam, just like she had for previous exams. The next morning she was found hanging in her dorm room.

Thought about her death over the years, still doesn't make sense to me and it likely never will. It was a sad time and I wish I had been able to see it coming, but even in retrospect the signs are just not there. When you aren't thinking straight, the world can seem like it is closing in on you, leaving no way out other than death.

The best advice I can give is to let those you truly care about know you are available for them anytime they need someone to listen to their concerns/fears and you will do it without being judgmental. It may not seem like much, but sometimes it is enough.

[rayzor]

i hate it for you james and i know the effect it can have on you, esp. in the long term.

had a buddy of mine kill himself about a year and a half ago...battled depression for a long time and had some med changes that sent him over the edge. the guy was a genius and one of the most talented and gifted people i've ever had the privilege of even just talking to.

i've also mentioned a couple times in here that my wife and i, as house parents at a children's home, had two girls attempt it while they were in our house.

it's stuff that isn't easily shaken from your mind and if you don't watch out, it can easily consume you. just the whole thought of someone killing themselves...things like what was going through their minds at that moment and the agony and hopelessness they must have felt in the minutes leading up to that point. it's a darkness that can drag you down in a big way which is why it can sometimes almost sound epidemic.

the advice you've heard from others in this thread...to seek out counseling or find someone to talk to is definitely something that you should do.

i would offer this bit of advice, though....find someone that is going to help you with the spin you put on life. what i mean by that is make sure that it's not someone who will help you feed any negativity you might already have because of this because stuff like this has a tendency to amplify the negative stuff you might have crawling around.

it's all about perspective. the reason people end their own lives is because of their perspective that life just won't get any better and they see nothing in their life down the road that would be worth enduring this pain any longer.

find someone that has the perspective on life that you wish you had or want and find out how they do it. find out how they view life and ask for suggestions on how to deal with that stuff and also do what you can to avoid thinking about what that friend of yours went through. don't forget about him, just put out of your mind the bad stuff so you don't dwell on it.

i talk to the mom of that buddy of mine who killed himself every once in a while and the way she copes with it is to try and look at him, his life, his memories and life itself in the most positive way possible. she tries to look at everything in a positive perspective and it seems to be working for her.

just my .02.

[CatofWar]

Suicide is perplexing. At least to me anyway. The person who takes their own life is incredibly brave and selfish at the same time. Those who suffer the most are the ones left to deal with the after math. No doubt your friends life didn't end when he decided to take it here on earth. You will catch up with him in another life. It's just hard for people to let go.

My older brother went to Walmart one morning, leaving with a box of .38 shells. He then went to the pawn shop asking to see a .38 chambered revolver. When he was given it he tried to load it. The guy working attempted to grab it, screaming "what are you doing"? My brother ran outside, with the gun and ammo in hand, to a near by alley. That's where he was found, still alive but barely. We didn't know at first what the fug happened. Took a day or two before we pieced everything together. He died 3 days later.

While your friend may no longer be here in the traditional sense, he is far from gone. When you see him again you can punch him in the nuts then hug him once again.

[Kurb]

disrespectful posts deleted.

sorry for your loss james

trollin in this thread will meet harsh reactions.

[charlotte49er]

Actually, this echos the exact thing I was going ot mention. Sometimes the "always happy" folks are covering some stuff that they just can't deal with. Could explain the constant partying also. Hate it for you and the rest of his friends.

Not so much the partying, but the drinking. Often excessive drinking is a sign of depression. Add to it that alcohol is an depressant, and you have a bad situation.

I'm sorry that your friend did that. Suicide is rough on the ones they leave behind. It they don't leave a note, then everyone is left wondering, why.

If you need professional help, there are programs in Charlotte that are often free. (Check United Way.) Help doesn't carry the stigma that it once did. (Even then, it shouldn't had.)

I hope you feel better. Sometimes it helps to take a "Mental Health" day and do something fun for yourself.

Good luck!