Probability of the Panthers winning at least 4 games this season...

[Udogg]

All I'm saying is Jadeveon Clowney and Charles Johnson.

[CRA]

All I'm saying is Jadeveon Clowney and Charles Johnson.

Clowney can't enter the draft

[iamhubby1]

Well, that just isn't accurate. Now whether that approach means anything is perfectly fine argument.

heck, just look at the NFCS.....every head coach in our division get worked up routinely. Smith, Payton, and the new guy all get very animated.

Animated, yes. Grab a facemask and yell, not so much. That kind of stuff just doesn't happen anymore in todays NFL.

Personally, I think Rivera is still trying to find his footing. He may turn out to be a great coach, or he may never figure it out. There is just no way to tell after 20 games. Or at least that is how I see it. Some folks can't wait for Rivera to figure it out cuz they want their victories now. I am wlling to give him some time, but I know I am in the minority.

[CRA]

Animated, yes. Grab a facemask and yell, not so much. That kind of stuff just doesn't happen anymore in todays NFL.

Personally, I think Rivera is still trying to find his footing. He may turn out to be a great coach, or he may never figure it out. There is just no way to tell after 20 games. Or at least that is how I see it. Some folks can't wait for Rivera to figure it out cuz they want their victories now. I am wlling to give him some time, but I know I am in the minority.

Eh, all 3 NFCS guys get pretty intense and on players in game fairly consistant......and on refs.

[nobody]

this is exactly how i feel. if we win 6 or 7 games again there is a 0% chance Hurney or the coaching staff get let go of. however if we finish 3-13 or 4-12 he has no other choice. the fan base would fuging riot if he didn't do something about it

dang it sir we just ruined my day. I am now torn between watching wine a cheese guys riot (picture it if you can) and the good of the team

[Marguide]

Head coaches have too much to do to babysit millionaire players. Players nowadays cannot handle a coach ripping on them. They are just like the majority of Huddlers. They would fap unmercifully should a coach grab their facemask.

I don't think you understand what people are referring to when they use the term "fap", unless you think all players and Huddlers are masochists.

[iamhubby1]

Clowney can't enter the draft

No, but Gholston from MSU can. Not sure why a DE is such a high priortiy? Although I am all for getting talented players. You can't go wrong with talent. Well, if they don't all play the same position that is.

[raleigh-panther]

I think if the Panthers lose to the Cowboys, you can blow Taps on them and they will be lucky to win 2 more games, so 3-13.

Quite a tumble from the 'playoff' hopes.

For it to have any chance of getting better:

1. Newton, no turn-overs and findng is second and 3 rd options.

2. the oline suddenly learns how to block...what a difference changing 2 guards and losing Shockey has made

3. the secondary suddenly needs to learn how to cover

4. Mcdermott has to give up the soft zone

5. Chudzinksi has to become a bit more traditional

6. Rivera, suddenly gets his head out of his ass, gets engaged in the game, and lets best players (Keek) play his natural position and injured players (beason) sit

7. Tolbert needs to remember he is a football player.

Odds of these things happening, very low.

Odds of fans and PSL holders staying interested in the team if things don't improve, very low.

For a man who 'wants to win' JR certainly seems to either have no luck or puts the worng people in charge of making the football decisions.

The reality of that SuperBowl run is it was also partly on the talent of Steve Smith, Morgan, Jenkins from the Siefert era which ironically is the reason Hurney got the job anyway and Muhammed and a few holders from Capers.

The Panthers have not had a decent DT or WR since.

[YoureWelcome]

I think we win 1 more game and get the #1 draft pick.

Not a bad season at all.

[iamhubby1]

Eh, all 3 NFCS guys get pretty intense and on players in game fairly consistant......and on refs.

Oh yea. I want my head coach yelling at everyone all game. That is just as bad as being a statue. Getting on the refs, sure. Being intense, sure. I want my head coach to coach the game, not spend his time do other things.

You cannot have it both ways. A head coach has too much on his plate to spend too much time getting on his players.

The original post was for a head coach that is a physical, grab the facemask, kind of coach. Those days are over.

[CRA]

No, but Gholston from MSU can. Not sure why a DE is such a high priortiy? Although I am all for getting talented players. You can't go wrong with talent. Well, if they don't all play the same position that is.

Probably bc DL play is as important as ever. Plus multiple DEs start and can play every down.

But DT, CB, and most importantly S rank ahead. WR probably does to. We probably need a more diverse TE as well. G too. We have lots of needs

[CRA]

Oh yea. I want my head coach yelling at everyone all game. That is just as bad as being a statue. Getting on the refs, sure. Being intense, sure. I want my head coach to coach the game, not spend his time do other things.

You cannot have it both ways. A head coach has too much on his plate to spend too much time getting on his players.

The original post was for a head coach that is a physical, grab the facemask, kind of coach. Those days are over.

I don't want my HC yelling all game or wearing his emotions on his sleeve.....

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[Argus Plexus]

This is what I am talking about. Is this how fans act nowadays? Who hopes for losses?

Apparently I do if they continue running read option, zone coverage bullsht. Call me what you want to.

[Darth Biscuit]

It all depends on which team shows up on game days... Good panthers or bad panthers.

My guess is that we'll win a game or two we "should" lose and lose a game or two we "should" win.

I'll also say that if the offense that played against the Giants and Seahawks shows up the rest of the season, we will finish 1-15.