Embarrassed by Jerry Richardson again: He was one of the leaders to keep refs locked out

[4Corners]

What is horrible about the Brown's fanbase? They are top notch in following their team.

If by following you mean gathering on Sunday in a parking lot to drink 100 beers then you are correct.

Browns been around for a very long time man, and NE Ohio is the birthplace of the NFL, so you'd expect them to have a long history of fans.

The point of my story was that the Brown fans laughed at me because I was complaining about not making the playoffs in four years and they pull for a team that hasn't made the playoffs in 15 years.

[beastson]

well i don't believe in the terms luck or karma but i will say greedy people will get their return of value. There will be no superbowl for carolina with this guy here!... how about a GM lockout?....its cool the panthers have fans and the majority here are real fans of the team but the reality is this greed will never bring what the fans really want, only continued crushed hopes! ive been a fan of the panthers but it is now clear to me that the top of the chain is the real issue for us. shame on him as we have had much wasted talent here and prefer a cheap hamburger of underrated players rather than a steak of proven athletes. Someone needs to pull his card as it was done for our coaches!

Oh Karma is real

And we're feeling the wrath of it unfortunately

[LA_Panther]

this is beyond ridiculous.

cause JR acts like a GM and calls down to the sidelines telling the coach how to call a game and who to put in.

yeah, the comparisons are endless. lol

ok ok...i was reaching :-)

[rayzor]

I like Jerry a lot for a lot of reasons, but this was a stupid decision if he wanted to keep going.

you're amking the assumption that it was the owners fault that the refs weren't accepting what they offered and were stuck on this idea t that they, as part time workers, should be getting a pension. THAT was what the hold up was.

once they backed off that, a deal could be made.

[4Corners]

Yup...Browns may suck, but we got nothing on their fans

They're a rowdy bunch that's for sure. Like I said though man northeast Ohio is the birthplace of football and the Browns have been around as long as football so there is most def a deep tradition there.

[megadeth078]

ok ok...i was reaching :-)

I thought your comparison was just trying to say that they're both out of touch, awful owners.

If there's a tier list for owners, I don't see how Jerry isn't seated comfortably atop the sh*t-tier.

[SZ James (banned)]

When the best thing you can say about your owner is "At least he brought us a team" then...

At least we're not the Browns :)

[megadeth078]

At least we're not the Browns :)

When are people going to realize that WE ARE THE BROWNS? We're Browns South, baby.

[pantherclaw]

Embarrassed by a man of conviction?

Boo hoo.

[SZ James (banned)]

It's not pretty. And I already said I don't give a poo about Forbes, or the money the team makes. We are one of the worst NFL, read again, NFL teams ever.

ON THE FIELD PRODUCTION.

EDIT:The table didn't format right but - http://mcubed.net/nfl/fwtot.shtml

Sure we have a better win % than the browns, what a standard!

At least we're not the Texans :)

[4Corners]

When are people going to realize that WE ARE THE BROWNS? We're Browns South, baby.

LOL. Browns fans are still celebrating Art Modell's death as we speak. Very classy fan base.

Good buddy of mine went to the Browns/Panthers game in Cleveland a couple seasons ago and what he described to me that took place at the tailgate and inside the stadium would never, ever happen at a panther game.

[NanuqoftheNorth]

Al Davis of the NFC

We should be so lucky.

JR is the old Al Davis without all the Super Bowl rings or the legacy.

The Raiders were the winningest professional sports franchise in the USA by percentage after Al Davis had managed / owned them for twenty years. The Raiders had also won three Superbowls by that point. He was also a head coach and Commissioner of the AFL.

I appreciate what JR has done, but he is no Al Davis.

[Stroupe-a-loop]

you're amking the assumption that it was the owners fault that the refs weren't accepting what they offered and were stuck on this idea t that they, as part time workers, should be getting a pension. THAT was what the hold up was.

once they backed off that, a deal could be made.

32 teams worth a billion plus a piece can pay a couple pensions and somehow avoid bankruptcy. Saying that saving what basically amounts to a couple rookie contracts worth of money is worth completly pissing on the integrity of the league is, in my opinion, a stupid stance by any owner.

[Jase]

When are people going to realize that WE ARE THE BROWNS? We're Browns South, baby.

The browns' turds.

I mean we're bad.

Why do we even exist? The NFL should just flush us to LA.