Does Aaron Rodgers have leadership issues or need a mind coach?

[MadHatter]

Years and years of demonizing the Vicks, Vince Youngs, McNabbs, etc and propping up the Peytons, Bradys, as "white knights" has taken its toll on some of our fans. They have agendas and biases that are engrained in their DNA. They love the Panthers but are forced to root for a QB they never wanted and prefer as someone to "root against", so there's this need to prove Cameron is "strange" or doing things "abnormal" from other QBs. There's this need to hold him accountable over our other team "leaders" because he's playing a position subconsciously that they feel he is unfairly playing.

It wouldnt be so bad if they werent so predictable about it. Being that Cameron is 6'5 and athletically gifted it doesnt take a rocket scientist to see this crowd was going to attack his "mental" and "leadership" abilities since they cant question his physical. We pretty much can count on having 10 years of good QBing that wont be appreciated because fans feel the need to overscrutinize and nitpick the QB they cant see themselves in. Not all of our fans are like this, we've got a lot of people who have embraced him, but there is a chunk of fans who care more about treating Cam as an "outsider" than they do about winning.

Once again, you prove to EVERYONE that you are nothing more than a racist bastard. Congratulations.

[MadHatter]

Agreed, I think you hit the nail on the head.

Great.... "Racist Man" has his sidekick "Bigot Boy".

[King Taharqa]

You must be a new fan. People didn't attack his leadership because his team mates saw him as a leader from the beginning and didn't feel the need to call him out on it.

We have numerous instances of our coaches and teammates praising Cams leadership since he came here. Are you a new fan?

Look, when you throw yourself out there as the icon and entertainer and you do a self promoting dance for your sponsors

There you go dude. Put it all out there. Hold that grudge over a pre-draft year old quote. Cam will be in the league 6 years and you'll hold that against him. Maybe if you saw yourself in him, you'd be more apt to see youth and ambition as positives. Like I said, you cant see yourself in Cameron. It always tickles me just how easy it is for your type to dislike a black QB. The smallest thing sets you off.

and show up on merchandise everywhere and then come out and play badly in your first big stage

Cam did not play well, but that was the case for our entire team. We were down 20-0 when he threw his first pick.

after being hyped as the guy who will change how the position is played you are going to draw attention no matter who you are.

I dont recall Cameron ever saying he would "change the position". What does that mean? But it is interesting to see you so up in arms over a perceived change. Like I said you have an agenda.

Look at The Golden Calf of Bristol, I don't think there is a more disliked player in the NFL than him and it's because of all the marketing. When you put yourself out there like that you have to understand what it will do to you.

The Golden Calf of Bristol is not a magnet for negative press stories. The Golden Calf of Bristol is not at the top of any most hated athlete lists. People dont question his leadership after losses. Another horrible analogy.

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

bant

well deserved

[King Taharqa]

Great.... "Racist Man" has his sidekick "Bigot Boy".

You cant dispute anything I wrote. Just resort to name calling.

[MadHatter]

You cant dispute anything I wrote. Just resort to name calling.

You cannot dispute ignorant opinion.

All you typed was that you think black QB's are unfairly judged. There is nothing factual about that....it is you own overly biased opinion.

[csx]

There is nothing more ignorant than to claim that racism is in someones DNA.

[King Taharqa]

Alright dude I am a huge Cam fan but you are incorrect here, that game against the Giants was as bad as a Jimmy Clausen game. The only difference is Jimmy has never thrown 3 picks in a game.

Cam had over 240 yards passing in that bad game. Clausen might've topped that once in his career on a good day. Jimmy never had 3 INTs because he'd rather throw it out of bounds or take a sack instead. Cam gives us a chance to win, Jimmy never did.

I am going to call out bad play no matter their height, weight, or race.

People arent calling out bad play, they're questioning "leadership" and "mental" qualities.

[teeray]

Yay my thread is becoming the race thread!!! I love it.

To throw some fuel on the fire, someone asked the other day how I would handle Cam. I said it was simple I would just ask him to be less black. Or maybe more white. Whichever was easiest.

As Muhammad Ali, Allen Iverson, and now Cam Newton prove, white people do not like black athletes that don't conform to what white America wants you to be.

Great fighter that was hated because he ran his mouth, great b-ball player that brought 100% to every basketball game was hated because he had to many tattoos, Cam Newton great talent but isn't a politician at the microphone after he plays poorly or his team plays poorly.

Yes white America loves Uncle Tom athletes though. it is okay to be a black athlete. America will LOVE you, just as long as you don't act too black. Then you are a thug or as Highlander put it "a punk".

[IGSaint]

We have numerous instances of our coaches and teammates praising Cams leadership since he came here. Are you a new fan?

There you go dude. Put it all out there. Hold that grudge over a pre-draft year old quote. Cam will be in the league 6 years and you'll hold that against him. Maybe if you saw yourself in him, you'd be more apt to see youth and ambition as positives. Like I said, you cant see yourself in Cameron. It always tickles me just how easy it is for your type to dislike a black QB. The smallest thing sets you off.

Cam did not play well, but that was the case for our entire team. We were down 20-0 when he threw his first pick.

I dont recall Cameron ever saying he would "change the position". What does that mean? But it is interesting to see you so up in arms over a perceived change. Like I said you have an agenda.

The Golden Calf of Bristol is not a magnet for negative press stories. The Golden Calf of Bristol is not at the top of any most hated athlete lists. People dont question his leadership after losses. Another horrible analogy.

The reality is that most people are not even aware of their biases and prejudices that they are holding some imaginary image over cam that is not held over any other qb.

[King Taharqa]

There is nothing more ignorant than to claim that racism is in someones DNA.

There's nothing sadder than to imply skin color affects one's leadership ability and intelligence.

[King Taharqa]

The reality is that most people are not even aware of their biases and prejudices that they are holding some imaginary image over cam that is not held over any other qb.

They will end up abandoning the NFL like they did the NBA. There's not 1 "traditional" QB under the age of 30 one could brag as an elite or potential HOFer, and theres only so many rule changes you can throw in to protect the "stiffs" to slow down these fast Ds. The csx's of the world will be forced to root for Cams more and more because the alternative is dying out.

[bigcatdaddy]

Cam had over 240 yards passing in that bad game. Clausen might've topped that once in his career on a good day. Jimmy never had 3 INTs because he'd rather throw it out of bounds or take a sack instead. Cam gives us a chance to win, Jimmy never did.

People arent calling out bad play, they're questioning "leadership" and "mental" qualities.

Cam never gave us a chance to win against the Giants, and I could careless if he had 500 yards he threw 3 picks and we scored 7 points. He had a horrible game and needs to make better decisions and that is me calling out his bad play I have never once questioned leadership or mental qualities. I think most of that is the media aka the Charlotte Observer and WFNZ. He is a young guy with a desire to win and wants nothing more then to do that so how as a fan could you not pull for that. Has he made some mistakes and sometimes not been the leader he needs to be? Yes but he will be the first to tell you that, we need to give him some time and realize that this is just his second year and we are only 3 games into the season.

[Kurb]

I always laugh when KT tells someone they have an agenda.