We're Not The Underdogs?

[beastson]

They call it an upset, but you're still picking Bucs to win which makes us the underdogs. Am I right?

Why even call it an upset when you're obviously looking on paper and through FA, you're thinking hmm... they might be the better team

[Floppin]

Wait........what?

[beastson]

Just looking at all these writers and observers... I just finished watching Playbook. 2-1 for Bucs just cause of acquisitions and game against the Patriots

[Floppin]

It's called an upset because we are favored, not because of how an individual analyst sees the teams or outcome.

[beastson]

It's called an upset because we are favored, not because of how an individual analyst sees the teams or outcome.

But we're going to lose

If you feel we're going to lose why call it an upset? I dont see how its an upset when its the first game of the season, anything can happen. Its not like its week 13 and we're the ones with the much better record. They are picking the Bucs cause of FA and preseason game against the Pats

[megadeth078]

A 0-0 team versus a 0-0 team. Underdog? Week 1? what?

[Floppin]

But we're going to lose

If you feel we're going to lose why call it an upset? I dont see how its an upset when its the first game of the season, anything can happen. Its not like its week 13 and we're the ones with the much better record. They are picking the Bucs cause of FA and preseason game against the Pats

Because we are the odds favorite.........Like I meant, when I said "We are favored"........

[beastson]

Because we are the odds favorite.........Like I meant, when I said "We are favored"........

Analysts don't go off Vegas, or should I say they shouldn't go off Vegas. They go off the tape, record, and who has the best players. You know that

[Floppin]

My point is that we are favored, which is why them picking against us is an upset pick. They don't go off of Vegas to make their pick, but they are using the line for the terminology of "upset", in this instance.

[megadeth078]

Analysts don't go off Vegas, or should I say they shouldn't go off Vegas. They go off the tape, record, and who has the best players. You know that

If the analysts don't go off Vegas, then where does "upset" and "underdogs" come from?

I think that's what this thread is asking about. Not quite sure.

[beastson]

If the analysts don't go off Vegas, then where does "upset" and "underdogs" come from?

I think that's what this thread is asking about. Not quite sure.

Both kinda go off the same thing, Im saying analysts don't go look at the odds and say oh they're the favorite. They have their own measures on who's who

What I'm saying is I don't get the term upset when both teams are 0-0, but since they're still picking them to win... doesn't that make them the favorite and we're the underdog?

The reason we're this "favorite" is cause of last year records, thats Vegas. I'm going off the analysts that actually digs deeper, which I said is obviously just off acquisitions and the game against the Pats. Thats ridiculous

[Captain Obvious]

I see their Mallet led patriots win and up the ante with the Jets and The Golden Calf of Bristol win. What know suckas!!!

[Floppin]

Both kinda go off the same thing, Im saying analysts don't go look at the odds and say oh they're the favorite. They have their own measures on who's who

What I'm saying is I don't get the term upset when both teams are 0-0, but since they're still picking them to win... doesn't that make them the favorite and we're the underdog?

The reason we're this "favorite" is cause of last year records, thats Vegas. I'm going off the analysts that actually digs deeper, which I said is obviously just off acquisitions and the game against the Pats. Thats ridiculous

The terms: Favorite, Underdog, Upset, Odds-on Favorite, etc. - Have always been tied into odds. You seem to think that these terms are based on records and other factors, and to an extent they are, but records are usually indicators of the strength of a team. For instance, Vegas isn't going to favor a 2-11 team over a 14-0 team, it's just not going to happen (baring some extreme circumstance). So odds generally begin to fall in line with overall records. The odds for the initial part of the season are best guesses and analysis by the odds makers. If you think that Vegas just put this line up based on last years record then you are fuging clueless. They do just as much analysis as the people who write for ESPN, if not more.

Point is, the term "upset" is based on the vegas line, in this case, whether you want to accept that or not.

[BigFan12]

This thread is a perfect example of the average Panthers fans IQ. Keep it going. Wait, I think Bucs will win, so how can it be an upset!? LMFAO I got to go share this thread, too much fail to not put on display!