Removing the franchise tag from Julius Peppers is the best option.

[X-Clown]

So the point is that yes, you do start things and bring them on yourself. You're not a victim. Give up the woe is me stuff.

[panthers55]

55 does not count. that has been going on for a while. It started before you were born

So let me get this straight. If I don't insult you or call you names in any thread from now on you will totally refrain from personal attacks and namecalling as well?

That will include me or anyone else since you never start them ever???

Is that what I understand you to say??

[carolinarolls]

So let me get this straight. If I don't insult you or call you names in any thread from now on you will totally refrain from personal attacks and namecalling as well?

That will include me or anyone else since you never start them ever???

Is that what I understand you to say??

that is the way it has been 55, don't act like its some kind of proposed change

some name calling is funny. everybody on here does it every single day. They are just not as autonomous and vehement as you are

[dongarisano]

It's a tough situation. They want something for Pep, but it's hard to get. Honestly, it may just be time to cut the losses and realize that he won't live up to the potential.

Speaking of Peppers, here's a hilarious blog on him.

http://popcornmuscles.com/2009/05/pepper/

[panthers55]

that is the way it has been 55, don't act like its some kind of proposed change

some name calling is funny. everybody on here does it every single day. They are just not as autonomous and vehement as you are

You are dancing around the question. Yes or no. If I don't criticize you or personally attack you, you won't personally attack me in any way. You will not initiate it. And if others don't attack you first you won't criticize or personally attack them either.

Yes or no???

[Fiz]

panthers55 quit acting so butt hurt and go take a bubble bath

[panthers55]

panthers55 quit acting so butt hurt and go take a bubble bath

Don't think I yanked your chain or asked for input. The question is simple. He didn't answer it. What about you. Are you going to continue to personally attack people thus reducing the validity of any arguments you make, or decide to debate the issues without resorting to juvenile name calling attacks and middle school tactics.

[Fiz]

im considering hiding your cranberry juice once a month and watching you sperg out

[panthers55]

im considering hiding your cranberry juice once a month and watching you sperg out

Does that kind of 7th grade banter serve as humor to you?

Stop ducking the question? yes or no? Are you going to continue to diminish everything you say that you want to be taken seriously about in favor of of juvenile comebacks, or are you going to act like a man so you will be considered and treated like one?

[Fiz]

panthers55 don't stop you're killing me

[panthers55]

panthers55 don't stop you're killing me

Fine then. Continue to talk out pf both of sides of your mouth. But don't expect me or many people to take you seriously when you can even act like a man.

Frankly I will choose to ignore you as I have been told to avoid wasting time arguing with drunks or fools. You decide which one fits.

[Fiz]

lol the only thing funnier than your little poo fit is watching you try to justify it by turning this into something other than you getting your thong in a twist

[top dawg]

The right decision was putting on the tag and the right decision is keeping it there. Those who argue against it obviously know little to nothing about business or you wouldn't make an idiotic comment.

Untagging him is essentially giving him away for nothing. That would be like giving your house away because it is less valuable than it once was and you have to sacrifice to make the payments and it is harder to sell.

The smart to thing to do is either get what you can for it or keep it until the value returns or in the case of next year, keep him (the house) until your income stream (cap space) changes in a positive direction (uncapped year). I fully expect that contracts will escalate next year unless a CBA is signed before then and his money won't look at bad as it does right now with the economy in the tank.

Letting him go for cap space when there is no free agent out there worth replacing him with is ridiculous. And anyone who really thinks we can replace him with who we have on the roster or a guy like Robertson knows very little about football. When was the last time a rookie DE like Brown had 10 sacks in his rookie year?

Start thinking with your brain instead of your emotions. The only debacle is what is happening for Peppers not the Panthers. He gambled and lost big time. If he is a man he will come back and swallow his pride. If he is a fool he will hold out and give you something to talk about for the next several months.

Oh, damn. It's snowing in hell. I can't figure what to argue with you about on this one...well, i wouldn't actually call him a fool for standing up for his principles (that is, if he feels strongly about not playing). Other than that, I approve this message.

[top dawg]

Wow. I didn't see the posts that preceded it.

Guys, don't get mad, but IMHO both of you have gotten a little muddy at times. Stop calling the kettle black, make a truce (i.e., kiss and make up), and return to the state of detente that exists between many members of the Huddle.