Breaking down Jonathan Stewart's deal

[Peppers90 NC]

totally agreed with this and the previous post.

i do think that jake's extension had more to do with giving fox what he wanted and trying to make a way to force pep to stay in a year that he didn't want to stay (which i also don't think was a great idea but oh well).

live and learn

[csx]

Thing is though we always question this stuff every year yet we always somehow keep the players we want long term, if you're gonna question anything about hurney, question his drafting skills past the first round and ability to find good pass rushers, not his salary cap management.. He's proven in the past he knows to manage money and manage it well, in fact most GM's can, unless your vinny cerrato.. But my point is we tend to worry about this stuff every year but somehow we always end up fine in the end (i.e. as everyone thought the world was gonna end and we wouldn't be able to sign jstew after dwill's contract, look what just happened?)

They keep players they want long term and continue to have gaps in other areas of the team. I don't question how much they spend, I question what they spend on a single position that doesn't seem to lead to any sort of team success.

[Gabeking]

They keep players they want long term and continue to have gaps in other areas of the team. I don't question how much they spend, I question what they spend on a single position that doesn't seem to lead to any sort of team success.

Now that's understandable, but to go senile saying the team will be broke in 5-10 years or that cams second contract is not possible because of jstew's new contract is not

[Catalyst]

Hurney knows we have to extend Cam, so I doubt he'd leave us in cap hell for '14-'15 with that in mind.

[Gabeking]

totally agreed with this and the previous post.

i do think that jake's extension had more to do with giving fox what he wanted and trying to make a way to force pep to stay in a year that he didn't want to stay (which i also don't think was a great idea but oh well).

Agreed and I also think fox had a lot of influence with a lot of our previous draft blunders as well (but in the end it's 100% hurney's responsibility since he makes the pick)

[TANTRIC-NINJA]

Restructures, Cap increases, cuts.. It should all be fine in 2015!

I hope to God, Allah, Ganesha, and the Hamburgular that I have better things to worry about than our cap in 2015...

[Argus Plexus]

Hurn-dawg got this

[fieryprophet]

I would go on a long screed delineating why all the worriers are total effing retards, but. . .no, I'm not going to do it. I'm tired of correcting other people's ignorance.

Suffice to say that that caps are as flexible as rubber bands, and that teams can make the math work anytime they feel the need to do so. Period.

[CRA]

Let the record show....all teams find a way to twist and scramble and find ways to operate under the cap. Doing that isn't Hurney magic....nor noteworthy.

We have one of the weaker DLs, weaker overall secondaries, and middle of the road overall rec corps in a passing a passing league....THAT is Hurney magic.

[rayzor]

Agreed and I also think fox had a lot of influence with a lot of our previous draft blunders as well (but in the end it's 100% hurney's responsibility since he makes the pick)

yep. many people that complain about the lack of success in previous years need to take into account that hurney was giving fox what he said he wanted for his team, which is what should have been the case. some might argue against the wisdom of that and that's fine.

when it was totally clear that the fox way wasn't working and wasn't going to work they tore it down and started to rebuild with the new coach and that's what we have now. sure, it's not happening fast enough for some, but it's happening all the same and for that i'm happy. i'm sure there will be a head scratcher or two (and there's already been a couple) but overall i'm very happy with the direction it's going compared to before.

[Rubi]

How many of the 32 teams truly air it out?

[FirstRoundPick]

yep. many people that complain about the lack of success in previous years need to take into account that hurney was giving fox what he said he wanted for his team, which is what should have been the case. some might argue against the wisdom of that and that's fine.

when it was totally clear that the fox way wasn't working and wasn't going to work they tore it down and started to rebuild with the new coach and that's what we have now. sure, it's not happening fast enough for some, but it's happening all the same and for that i'm happy. i'm sure there will be a head scratcher or two (and there's already been a couple) but overall i'm very happy with the direction it's going compared to before.

True story: Fox held a gun to Hurney's head, and told him to draft Clausen, and Edwards.

[Sapper]

December 21st can't come fast enough.

[Marguide]

1) When it comes to the cap, Hurney knows what he's doing. Remember when everyone said we were in cap hell this year?

2) Cam isn't going anywhere

3) We have what, maybe $21 million in cap space tied up in 2 players (Gross and Gamble). We could clear the $10 million next year just by reworking the contract of these two no problem.

This story is good press for the chicken little's. Nothing more.