pff rb age of decline

[TheSeagull]

If you look at some other sports as players age, they all decline around 30. Basketball, a sport with a lot less contact, doesn't have any players miraculously improving past 30. It's just the way the body works, 16-25 are the ideal ages and the times when you're most in shape in your entire life. Post 22 you start declining. That's why no track star over 25 is breaking records.

In football, when you get hit a bunch, it just makes it worse, but our backs just don't get hit that often. With the dual back system we've had, it just lessens their milage so much that they can sustain a relatively high level of output for their age.

I just don't think our running backs are going to decline and their worth the money we pay them. With the threat out of the backfield, I think their worth every penny.

[rayzor]

I am not hating on DWill making money, but what we pay our RB's here in Carolina have to be the laughing stock of the Steelers, Patriots, Giants, etc.....

i think it's doing more to piss off other GMs who have very talented RBs on their roster who see what the panthers are paying and now have to try and appease them, eg: jaxville/mjd, chitown/forte...and i don't have a problem with this at all.

[thefuzz]

i think it's doing more to piss off other GMs who have very talented RBs on their roster who see what the panthers are paying and now have to try and appease them, eg: jaxville/mjd, chitown/forte...and i don't have a problem with this at all.

Want to know what pisses me off about it. Go look at their production, and get back to me.

Forte and MJD are studs, and have been for a while, DWill had two 1K yard seasons and we make him the highest paid RB in the league, then hand him the rock a total of 155 times last season.

It just doesn't make sense.

[CRA]

Want to know what pisses me off about it. Go look at their production, and get back to me.

Forte and MJD are studs, and have been for a while, DWill had two 1K yard seasons and we make him the highest paid RB in the league, then hand him the rock a total of 155 times last season.

It just doesn't make sense.

But he talks to people on Facebook and streams live....you forgot about that you Williams hating bastard.

[rayzor]

Want to know what pisses me off about it. Go look at their production, and get back to me.

Forte and MJD are studs, and have been for a while, DWill had two 1K yard seasons and we make him the highest paid RB in the league, then hand him the rock a total of 155 times last season.

It just doesn't make sense.

not my money. don't care.

now as far as cap implications go, i'm not all that concerned about that either...maybe we could have picked up a couple defensive studs in FA with the money he got paid, but when have we done that before? that's just not our modus operandi.

apparently they have the cap money as-is to do what they want. imo, what's more important isn't the production, but the damage they can do when they have the ball in their hands. yeah, the money is obscene for how little they carry the ball, but even just them being as dangerous as they are and being on the field makes things better for the offense because they are someone defenses always have to account for.

[CRA]

not my money. don't care.

now as far as cap implications go, i'm not all that concerned about that either...maybe we could have picked up a couple defensive studs in FA with the money he got paid, but when have we done that before? that's just not our modus operandi.

apparently they have the cap money as-is to do what they want. imo, what's more important isn't the production, but the damage they can do when they have the ball in their hands. yeah, the money is obscene for how little they carry the ball, but even just them being as dangerous as they are and being on the field makes things better for the offense because they are someone defenses always have to account for.

How that money is spent impacts how the team you pull for can be built.

Forte is a good, we should of signed him. Not my money. He is worth good money.

[Floppin]

I don't care if we had Forte, MJD, or Arian Foster, none of them would get more carries than our backs get if they were on our team. Their production would be the same as what we have, if they were on this team.

[csx]

I've always scratched my head at the not my money angle. There's a salary cap and how you distribute the money has everything to do with the success of the team. The team is going to spend the money somewhere, it's where that's being debated....not if. That just seems to be a very shallow and misguided way to look at the subject.

[rayzor]

How that money is spent impacts how the team you pull for can be built.

Forte is a good, we should of signed him. Not my money. He is worth good money.

doesn't really matter, tho, if the team you pull for doesn't build like that.

if they didn't pay williams all that money do you honestly think they would have done much more than they did in FA? i think we all know the answer is probably "no".

if the team looks to be severely handicapped by what they did contractually with williams (and what i assume they will be doing with stewart) then i'll gripe, but right now i don't see that as being the case. i think the panthers as-is personnel-wise have the talent to win a ring. i don't see them being significantly held back by that contract nor do i believe they will be in giving stewart the contract he most likely will be getting.

[countryboi]

I remember reading a report that said that after about 300 plus carries for 3-4 seasons you start to see an immediate decline in production...if thats the case players like michael turner and maurice jones drew are about to see demising returns

[CRA]

I don't care if we had Forte, MJD, or Arian Foster, none of them would get more carries than our backs get if they were on our team. Their production would be the same as what we have, if they were on this team.

People are posting threads about how Tolbert will make us better.....so why doesn't that apply if we would have brought in Forte instead and paid him. Forte likely could be the best RB on the team based on what we run

[Floppin]

People are posting threads about how Tolbert will make us better.....so why doesn't that apply if we would have brought in Forte instead and paid him. Forte likely could be the best RB on the team based on what we run

You're not making any sense. Tolbert is getting paid about 17 million less per year than Forte.

[rayzor]

I remember reading a report that said that after about 300 plus carries for 3-4 seasons you start to see an immediate decline in production...if thats the case players like michael turner and maurice jones drew are about to see demising returns

they are.

i don't know what the falcons are going to be doing about it but i know the jags are going to have to pay out the rear for mjd.

[CRA]

doesn't really matter, tho, if the team you pull for doesn't build like that.

if they didn't pay williams all that money do you honestly think they would have done much more than they did in FA? i think we all know the answer is probably "no".

if the team looks to be severely handicapped by what they did contractually with williams (and what i assume they will be doing with stewart) then i'll gripe, but right now i don't see that as being the case. i think the panthers as-is personnel-wise have the talent to win a ring. i don't see them being significantly held back by that contract nor do i believe they will be in giving stewart the contract he most likely will be getting.

More big picture than that....not about getting on FA in place of Williams.

That is like saying Redskin fans shouldn't of complained when they signed Haynesworth.....not there money, who cares.