Do you want Shockey back?

[Gallagher]

Shockey may not have that hunger anymore. He already has his rings.

He's been to the big game before, and won. Twice. He probably wants to do it again.

To me, it was just a wee bit disconcerting when it was reported that he desired to return to the Giants, even at the league minimum, though he tried to dismiss it, but never outright denied it.

I always thought that Shockey had two sides. He was a beast back in the day (when he wasn't hurt). Now I see him as just solid. Fresh legs may suffice and even outdo the Shockster.

He wanted to play on the team that won the Super Bowl; we're going to win the Super Bowl. It's perfect!

I would sign him for the league minimum or maybe a little more, as money not spent on him can be saved for Stewart's and later Newton's contracts.

He played all 16 for us last year, didn't he?

[philw5289]

yes because he saved Ben Hartstock's life

[CarolinaPanthers8789]

yes because he saved Ben Hartstock's life

Lol Hartsock

[The Huddler]

He's gunna sign a five year dear worth 2 mil with us

[Toundra]

You bet!

Le shok is "warrior" and a step forward to the Superbowl.

Le shok is the drill sergeant of the Carolina Panthers platoons.

[Cape Fear Cat]

The value of Shockey, to me, is not so much that he's an excellent TE - although he is certainly that. But I suspect the young guys will develop into viable threats at that position soon if they're not already. What I think Shockey brings to the table that is so hard to duplicate is a warrior's attitude. All of these guys at this level are competitive. But Shockey's a street fighter who brings a nasty streak to his play that young players often seem to lack. That gritty, mean, stubbornness is something that can pay real dividends in a tough fight, and make the difference between a win and a loss.

[jarhead]

Yes without really knowing the capabilities of of Barnidge and others.He may still be here if depending on how things go in camp.

[Rip Saw]

Only an idiot would say no...

He makes are team better, so obviously yes.

An idiot who doesn't know how to spell no doubt. :rolleyes:

[Kakarot]

Naw, not really. If they bring him back, that's cool though.

[stirs]

I don't think he is the "team" player Rivera wants.

He has always been about himself. Warrior or not, he comes first and that is not where we are headed with this team. Undisciplined in his comments and ready to jump to any team for a dollar. Not so enamored with him as others.

[Davidson Deac II]

He is not at the top of my list. Perhaps if he is willing to come back cheap though.

[top dawg]

In terms of "impactful plays" he was better than Olsen last season, so yes. Didn't have a lot of OBVIOUS drops either.

I know what the stats suggest, but Shockey was the best TE on the team last year.

Well, that's kind of hard to say. I was surprised by such relatively meager production on Shockey's part when I looked his stats up:

http://www.pro-footb...11/#stats::none

Your response prompted me to pull Olsen's stats, which, again, kinda surprised me even more:

http://www.pro-footb...11/#stats::none

It's not like either one set the world on fire last year, but I am thinking that this is probably due in part to everyone learning a new system that was in its relative infancy of being developed. I think that it's a stretch to say that Shockey was our best TE last year, but he did make a play or two in the Saints*** game that stand out, and he may have been on the field more due to Olsen's injury issues (while playing through his own), so this may have given the appearance that he was all that and a bag of chips, but Olsen is clearly the one with the most talent and upside at this point in their respective careers. I am not saying that you are suggesting that Shockey > Olsen, but I believe that the stats suggest that perhaps we have attributed more importance to the TE position than was really warranted last year when looking at bottom line productivity. This is why I believe that a premium has been put on finding and developing talent at the WR position who can stretch the field.

Stats really don't tell the whole story, but they can send an overall message. The Chud-Cam system spreads the ball around. The impact of the one is not necessarily the thing that destroys the other team's defense, it's the impact of the many that lies at the heart of the destruction.

All this being said, I suggest that Shock's presence---or lack thereof---is actually being overstated, and that he is really expendable. One Shockey doesn't stop the show.

[CRA]

Eh, for cheap. But we do need a well rounded TE....which I am not sure we have. Olsen is pretty much a WR

[carolinarolls]

I liked having an attitude guy (other than Smitty) on the offense for once. He was all positive for us.

and.... sweet fuggin patriotic tat!

why not?

salary cap/player development/injuries/etc. not considered.