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Cam's stats will not be as impressive next year...


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I truly believe Cam wont reach the 3,400 yard passing mark...That said his efficency will go up, our run game will be even better and we will win more games just based on defense alone. Dont look for Cam to break 5,000 yards, we don't need that and with how our team is built we don't want that. We want to beat teams up on the ground. The only wr we added was Joe Adams, (yes we get Gettis back) but a key move to show what Rivera wants this team to be like was the addition of Tolbert to an already crowded backfield. Last year we showed off our new toy this year we want to win games...Dont take Cam in the first round in fantasy and draft Stewart and williams back to back in the middle rounds lol..

I'm trying to understand your reasoning and don't follow.

If I'm reading you right you think that signing Tolbert (a FB) means that Rivera/Chudz want to 'beat teams up on the ground'?

But, I don't understand that logic.

Rivera/Chudz both come from Norv's San Diego team and over the past 4 seasons has passed the ball 521 times a season over the past 2 seasons Norv's team has passed 582 and 541 respectively.

Rivera/Chudz were wide open in the offense with a rookie QB.

In a passing league, with a progressive offensive coordinator and the best rookie QB in history it doesn't seem logical to scale back.

In fact it would seem like a step in the wrong direction to put Cam in handcuffs.

If Rivera/Chudz are trying to make the offense more like the Chargers I don't see Cam's passing attempts going down.

And if Cam's passing attempts don't decrease then I don't see how his pass yards drops.

Like you said Cam's efficiency should go up comp %, YPA, TD% and if his passing attempts stay the same Cam should be equally if not more productive this upcoming season.

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Cam was the most efficient runner on our team and made our ground attack the most efficient in all the NFL....as a rookie.

Cam is a football player....If you just let the RBs run, Cam wont be that good. Running is part of his game. It makes him the matchup nightmare.

The future is in a unique QB who will change the type athletes who play QB.....not shackling him. Gotta quit looking at the past. Cam is the future in many ways.

No one is arguing Cam's ability to run like a RB. We/I am arguing to just limit his runs. He does not have to run 70-80 time like last year to still be effective. Cam knows his future is to be a passing QB with exceptional running ability. Rivera/Chud know this. Hellz, even I know this. You on the other hand have a different slant.

Cam is a matchup nightmare as it is, you don't have to run him like a RB to change that. Scrambles count, so IMO, he should have 25-30 scrambles, and 10-15 actual carries. That would be just fine with me.

The future is to get your exceptionally talented QB to tone down the running plays. Let him run when he sees it. The future is with Cam. Running him like a RB, just may shorten that future.

I realize I will not change your opinion. So please do me a favor? Please, please, please be gentle with Cam as you run him into the ground.

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No one is arguing Cam's ability to run like a RB. We/I am arguing to just limit his runs. He does not have to run 70-80 time like last year to still be effective. Cam knows his future is to be a passing QB with exceptional running ability. Rivera/Chud know this. Hellz, even I know this. You on the other hand have a different slant.

Cam is a matchup nightmare as it is, you don't have to run him like a RB to change that. Scrambles count, so IMO, he should have 25-30 scrambles, and 10-15 actual carries. That would be just fine with me.

The future is to get your exceptionally talented QB to tone down the running plays. Let him run when he sees it. The future is with Cam. Running him like a RB, just may shorten that future.

I realize I will not change your opinion. So please do me a favor? Please, please, please be gentle with Cam as you run him into the ground.

As an old 14 yr old vet Steve Young rushed it 70 times in a season.

Cam is 21 yrs old and an athletic tank....he will be fine running while he is young.

I think while Cam is young and the monster dual threat is our best shot to be special.

Mike Vick doesnt get hurt bc he runs...he gets hurt bc he is built like a QB

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As an old 14 yr old vet Steve Young rushed it 70 times in a season.

Cam is 21 yrs old and an athletic tank....he will be fine running while he is young.

I think while Cam is young and the monster dual threat is our best shot to be special.

Scrambles are different from designed runs. Let Cam run when he sees it. Not as a suppliment to the RB position.

Cam is our Franchise QB, let him be a QB not a RB. As has been stated. Just because Cam is a gifted runner, does not mean you have to use him as a RB.

You want to run him like a bull. I want him to be here for the long haul. Which way would seem to be the more likely way to keep him long term?

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I truly believe Cam wont reach the 3,400 yard passing mark...That said his efficency will go up, our run game will be even better and we will win more games just based on defense alone. Dont look for Cam to break 5,000 yards, we don't need that and with how our team is built we don't want that. We want to beat teams up on the ground. The only wr we added was Joe Adams, (yes we get Gettis back) but a key move to show what Rivera wants this team to be like was the addition of Tolbert to an already crowded backfield. Last year we showed off our new toy this year we want to win games...Dont take Cam in the first round in fantasy and draft Stewart and williams back to back in the middle rounds lol..

This isn't John Fox's offense where we run the ball 80% of the time. This is primarily a passing offense. Cam only threw for over 300 yards three times last year I believe. His passing yardage will greatly improve this season, especially with Gettis coming back.

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Scrambles are different from designed runs. Let Cam run when he sees it. Not as a suppliment to the RB position.

Cam is our Franchise QB, let him be a QB not a RB. As has been stated. Just because Cam is a gifted runner, does not mean you have to use him as a RB.

You want to run him like a bull. I want him to be here for the long haul. Which way would seem to be the more likely way to keep him long term?

I don't mean to speak for you CRA but I don't think CRA is suggesting that Cam run like a RB.

However, if you remove designed QB runs or read(run) option plays then you remove a key element that helped make the offense dynamic.

Teams are forced to account for Cam as runner or be prepared to give up 5 yards or more chunks of yards every time the Panthers run zone-read.

And no defense want to concede yards like that.

When they try to stop the running game they're more vulnerable to the pass.

This combination Cam's run threat in the read-option (designed runs) and his arm talent make the Panther's offense special.

Its a winning forumla, some might argue that the Panther's could have used the read-option even more.

The read option allowed a QB that can run almost as well as Cam but can't throw worth a damn to lead a 1-4 team to a playoff victory. (The Golden Calf of Bristol)

Cam's run threat in the read-option/zone-read is a gift.

Its a gift that I hope my team can harness with Griffin.

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I don't mean to speak for you CRA but I don't think CRA is suggesting that Cam run like a RB.

However, if you remove designed QB runs or read(run) option plays then you remove a key element that helped make the offense dynamic.

Teams are forced to account for Cam as runner or be prepared to give up 5 yards or more chunks of yards every time the Panthers run zone-read.

And no defense want to concede yards like that.

When they try to stop the running game they're more vulnerable to the pass.

This combination Cam's run threat in the read-option (designed runs) and his arm talent make the Panther's offense special.

Its a winning forumla, some might argue that the Panther's could have used the read-option even more.

The read option allowed a QB that can run almost as well as Cam but can't throw worth a damn to lead a 1-4 team to a playoff victory. (The Golden Calf of Bristol)

Cam's run threat in the read-option/zone-read is a gift.

Its a gift that I hope my team can harness with Griffin.

First, I now dislike you, into the pile with you.

I get what you are saying in regards to the read option. To some the benefits outweigh the costs. We run the ball a little less than half the time. Why Not have Cam start that play? I get it. I just don't like it. The threat is already there. There are plenty of options to play with. Why use the one option you cannot afford to lose?

Cam ran the ball 70+ times last year. I just happen to think that is 30ish too many. And even though he is hard as hellz to get a lick on, why tempt fate? Culpepper was a dual threat until Evans ended his reign. Let Cam lead the O, let him run when he sees the opening, let him be Cam. Just limit the designed run plays please.

I just want my once in a lifetime, swag monging, reinventor of the Franchise QB position, QB to have a long and healthy career. You guys are infatuated with what could be. While I applaud the idea, I have to politely refuse to join that line of thinking.

Second. There is a part of me that is curious as to how Shanny uses RG3. A small part, as they are my least favorite team. But for you, I try.

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Impressive as in stats?

While I'll still expect some of his loose cannon interceptions and some sailing dump off passes, I'm actually expecting Cam to have another great season.

Nothing about Cam should or would regress dramatically this year.

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he can still break 4,000 this year. As he progresses he'll be able to hit that mark more consistently, and with efficiency, which is what this team is going to need on offense going forward more than anything else. Just being able to run the ball doesn't make you a great offense, and it isn't the keystone needed to make everything else work on offense. Pay attention to what's going on around the league recently and stop reading the John Fox handbook of football that got shoved down your throat in 2002.

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Scrambles are different from designed runs. Let Cam run when he sees it. Not as a suppliment to the RB position.

Cam is our Franchise QB, let him be a QB not a RB. As has been stated. Just because Cam is a gifted runner, does not mean you have to use him as a RB.

You want to run him like a bull. I want him to be here for the long haul. Which way would seem to be the more likely way to keep him long term?

So I guess QBs are the only players you want around for the long haul?

You use Cam not as a RB but as a unique runner and passer....If Carolina wasn't going to take advantage of what makes him special then they shouldn't of drafted him

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I can agree with those who say we shouldn't use Cam as a primary running option. I also can agree with those that say we need to let him scramble as he himself said that he is more likely to get hurt in the pocket being blindsided instead of the open field where he can see what is coming at him.

The big issue seems to be how much to use him in goal line situations, third and shorts, and as a read option quarterback. I would think we would let him help decide that as well as see what is most effective and what defenses are giving us. I don't think you can go into the season saying that this is what we are going to do 50 times or 100 times. I think we will have all those plays in the package and see how things work out. Obviously running him too often and getting him hurt would be totally counterproductive then again making him too one dimensional takes away from what made him great last year. I think it will be a balance that we experiment with throughout the year. What we do the first few games might not be what we do the last few games similar to last year.

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Absolutely you let him scramble, that's who Cam is. I don't think anyone is arguing against that. More the goal line situations, I would like to see less of him having to lunge over the opposing defense. We have three more than capable running backs that can punch it in if we choose not to pass.

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