NFL's 10 Highest-Paid Running Backs

[CRA]

CRA, what is your biggest fear about D-will's contract?

A.Not being able to re-sign stewart because of it?

B. Having and him stewart on the same roster at high cap numbers?

I'm guessing one of those 2 things right?

Do you really think either of those fears have a possibility of being the difference in us winning a superbowl or not?

Biggest fear was spending too much money and cap space on the RB position. Williams was always setup to be the luxury RB. We will resign Stewart bc he will seperate himself even more this year as the RB we need to have here.

It isn't about Williams. Love the player he is.....one of my favorites. But I am ready for the Cam era and want as much spent on giving him the best team. Other spots are simply more important....no matter how they work the numbers keeping both simply has its costs

[MasterAwesome]

i would hardly consider getting a concussion from a team that's headhunting and injury that's sustained because of a workload.

All right that's cool...but your point was that Stewart has proven he can handle a full workload which I haven't seen yet. Were you just talking about over the course of a game? His most carries, like I said, were 221 while Williams had 216 the same season...that's roughly half the workload. And the most time he has experienced as the featured back over the course of a season has been 7 games. Even Darren McFadden (one of the most notoriously fragile running backs in the NFL right now) can handle the full workload for half a season. That's all Jonathan Stewart has had to do thus far, which hasn't really proven much.

Also, if you want to discredit the injury he got that season...how about we look at efficiency carrying the ball? When he was forced to be the featured back during the 2010 NFL season...he experienced his lowest YPC average (4.3), lowest touchdown total (2), and most fumbles (4). This is with a comparable number of carries for his career, the only difference was: he had to carry the load for the 7 games he started instead of splitting carries with Williams.

2008 (rookie season): 184 attempts, 836 yards, 4.5 ypc, 10 TDs - 0 starts

2009: 221 attempts, 1133 yards, 5.1 ypc, 10 TDs - 3 starts

2010 (injured season): 178 attempts, 770 yards, 4.3 ypc, 2 TDs - 7 starts

2011: 142 attempts, 761 yards, 5.4 ypc, 4 TDs - 3 starts

How can you argue against that? I'm not saying he CAN'T handle a full workload either, but the stats certainly aren't in his favor. Aside from his rookie season (which should, understandably, be his weakest season), his YPC average dropped roughly an entire yard.

[nosuchthingasapanther]

All right that's cool...but your point was that Stewart has proven he can handle a full workload which I haven't seen yet. Were you just talking about over the course of a game? His most carries, like I said, were 221 while Williams had 216 the same season...that's roughly half the workload. And the most time he has experienced as the featured back over the course of a season has been 7 games. Even Darren McFadden (one of the most notoriously fragile running backs in the NFL right now) can handle the full workload for half a season. That's all Jonathan Stewart has had to do thus far, which hasn't really proven much.

Also, if you want to discredit the injury he got that season...how about we look at efficiency carrying the ball? When he was forced to be the featured back during the 2010 NFL season...he experienced his lowest YPC average (4.3), lowest touchdown total (2), and most fumbles (4). This is with a comparable number of carries for his career, the only difference was: he had to carry the load for the 7 games he started instead of splitting carries with Williams.

2008 (rookie season): 184 attempts, 836 yards, 4.5 ypc, 10 TDs - 0 starts

2009: 221 attempts, 1133 yards, 5.1 ypc, 10 TDs - 3 starts

2010 (injured season): 178 attempts, 770 yards, 4.3 ypc, 2 TDs - 7 starts

2011: 142 attempts, 761 yards, 5.4 ypc, 4 TDs - 3 starts

How can you argue against that? I'm not saying he CAN'T handle a full workload either, but the stats certainly aren't in his favor. Aside from his rookie season (which should, understandably, be his weakest season), his YPC average dropped roughly an entire yard.

so you want to break down the worse statistical season of the organization's history? or better yet, nfl history?

okay, but let's make sure were do this right. if you want measure his efficiency, then let's look at the coveted ypc that the huddle holds so dearly.

he averaged 4.3 ypc for the 2010 season...but he averaged 4.9 in the 7 games when he carried the load by himself.

[Lumps]

Some RBs are simply better with a larger load....Stewart appears to be that kind of RB.

If Williams didn't exist....with Cam, Stewart and Tolbert, nobody would want us to spend money on a top tier RB. People want Williams bc of his Panther past more than anything....Double Trouble at this stage is an expensive luxury in today's NFL

Don't agree because before we signed Dwill and before we even picked Cam we did not have Tolbert we had fumblitus Goodson and Clausen, so signing Dwill shouldn't be downplayed after the fact for those specific reasons.

I am not an ignorant fan I know he is overpaid, but you can'y expect something different from a loyal player and JR's business ethics, but I also believe dwill to be the type of person that would restructure if he had to. I could be wrong but just my perception.

[Panthro]

One good year vs weak competition

DWill 2 good years + 2 years on IR + 2 years of meh

[MasterAwesome]

so you want to break down the worse statistical season of the organization's history? or better yet, nfl history?

okay, but let's make sure were do this right. if you want measure his efficiency, then let's look at the coveted ypc that the huddle holds so dearly.

he averaged 4.3 ypc for the 2010 season...but he averaged 4.9 in the 7 games when he carried the load by himself.

I don't know which 7 games you were looking at...but in his 7 STARTS he averaged 4.5 ypc which is still well below his career average. Him starting = Williams being injured = Stewart carrying the workload. This is all nitpicking though I know. And yeah our 2010 season sucked offensively, but again all these statistics aren't even a part of my initial point. All I said originally was that Stewart/Williams haven't proven they can handle a full workload so it's silly to try and predict their success in the NFL based on their performances as a two-back committee...then you said that Stewart HAS proven he can carry a full workload which you never elaborated on, so now we've strayed from my original point and are stuck talking about all these statistics.

[Car123]

DWill 2 good years + 2 years on IR + 2 years of meh

He was back during those "2 years of meh"

And we all knew he was good but Fox loves his vets

[God]

i dont think deangleo is a top 15 RB

[Car123]

i dont think deangleo is a top 15 RB

Name 15 rbs better

[nosuchthingasapanther]

I don't know which 7 games you were looking at...but in his 7 STARTS he averaged 4.5 ypc which is still well below his career average. Him starting = Williams being injured = Stewart carrying the workload. This is all nitpicking though I know. And yeah our 2010 season sucked offensively, but again all these statistics aren't even a part of my initial point. All I said originally was that Stewart/Williams haven't proven they can handle a full workload so it's silly to try and predict their success in the NFL based on their performances as a two-back committee...then you said that Stewart HAS proven he can carry a full workload which you never elaborated on, so now we've strayed from my original point and are stuck talking about all these statistics.

ah...i see what you did.

anytime either williams or stewart is hurt = the other is carrying the load. i took stats from games where williams wasn't playing, never realizing it's in fact 8 games and not 7.

if you want to exclude the game where stewart returned from his concussion and goodson "started" to make your point, cool. john fox threw goodson a bone...but everyone knew who the real starter was, just like last season.

this all may be nitpicking, but i'm having fun.

oh yeah...you brought up stats. not me.

[MasterAwesome]

ah...i see what you did.

anytime either williams or stewart is hurt = the other is carrying the load. i took stats from games where williams wasn't playing, never realizing it's in fact 8 games and not 7.

if you want to exclude the game where stewart returned from his concussion and goodson "started" to make your point, cool. john fox threw goodson a bone...but everyone knew who the real starter was, just like last season.

this all may be nitpicking, but i'm having fun.

oh yeah...you brought up stats. not me.

Lol did you even care to look at the game Stewart returned from his concussion? Goodson had 14 carries to Stewart's 12 carries...how that translates to Stewart carrying the load is beyond me...but yeah he had his highest YPC average in that game so I see why you would want to use that one. Obviously Fox was easing Stewart back into the game there, he wasn't "throwing Goodson a bone" after he just had 20+ carries in back-to-back weeks.

Of course I brought up stats since you decided to make an argument based on zero substance...I still have yet to hear from you how Stewart has proven he can carry a full workload. You simply said that he has, and that was the extent of your argument. All you've done is take my entire argument, point out one detail in support of that argument that you disagreed with, and completely ignore the rest. Instead of coming up with your own original thoughts on the subject, all you're doing is shooting down other thoughts using faulty logic. So you think if Williams/Stewart were the featured backs on two different teams that they'd both be top 5? My argument is that you can't measure those 2 backs' successes individually...they've thrived off working as a duo thus far. Not to say that they couldn't be the featured backs on a team...but there is no way you could say they'd be top 5 working alone since neither has been given a full workload for even a single season.

[CRA]

With Cam and Tolbert....and the offense we run in todays game....carrying the load doesn't mean the same thing it did for Emmitt back in the day.

To suggest Stewart can't handle the load here is silly.

Look at 2009 when Williams got hurt and Jimmy Clausen wasn't prevent anything legit from occurring.... Stewart feasted on teams. Stewart does better with more touches.

[God]

Name 15 rbs better

Arian Foster

Ray Rice

MJD

Lesean McCoy

Ryan Mathews

Chris Johnson

Darren McFadden

Matt Forte

Adrian Peterson

Marshawn Lynch

Jamaal Charles

Michael Turner

Trent Richardson (A rookie, but way more talented. Gonna be better)

Jonathan Stewart

Steven Jackson

Probably better:

Demarco Murray

Trent Richardson

Fred Jackson

Frank Gore

[Marguide]

Let's put some more illumination on this DWill vs Stewart debate.

In spite of playing in fewer games (you know, because he is so injury prone), DWill has more yards per touch, and more TD's than Stewart.

Let's look at the numbers (all data from 2008 through 2011, the only years they both played):

DWill has 4398 yards with 35 TD's in 51 games, in which he had 809 touches for a 5.44 average per touch.

Stew has 4202 yards with 29 TD's in 62 games, in which he had 806 touches for a 5.21 average per touch.

Add to that, Stewart was just named the worst pass blocking RB for the last 3 years per Pro Football Focus.

Stewart is younger. Stewart is cheaper. Stewart is not better.