FA projected losses over next 2 years

[panthers55]

Obviously we think like a billionaire...not a maroon who thinks he's always right

In the words of Emilly Latella-----

-Nevermind....................................

[panthers55]

I said loyalty, not stupidity! Why would Beason give moey back because he got injured doing what he was being paid to do. Do you give money back when you get injured on your job? Loyalty isn't as overrated as you indicate. There is loyalty within business, although at the end of the day, you have to make a decision that benefits the team. It is my believe that within that decision, loyalty is considered, not the determining factor, but considered. If we've rode the shirt tale of our Franchise QB for years, production year after year from him, I would not be the one ready to toss him aside so quickly. My top priorty would be to keep him and sign my idea of his replacement.

If you have worked in a fortune 500 company in the late 90 to early 2000s when the market collapsed and companies laid off 100 thousands of workers you understand that loyalty is an often thrown around word that is fine when convenient and things are going well, but means nothing when the mess hits the fan.

[panthers55]

Well I firmly believe Carolina will treat it as a 4 yr deal. So let's assume for a minute they do....

If they do, recent history says they give him a new deal after his 3rd season is in the books. They don't let him see the last year of his contract just like Eli, Rivers etc didn't the last year of there rookie deals.

Unlike those guys, Cam didnt get the comical money as a rookie....so Carolina also will likely want to reward a #1 pick who didn't cash in like those before him.

I know there is that 5th year clause in it but I believe Carolina honors it as a 4.....and if they do he easily gets extended after 3 seasons

I don't pretend to know what Hurney will do and if it were me I would try and lock him early to make things easy.. But then again I wouldn't have cut all the veterans in 2010, wouldn't have drafted Clausen and would have done a number of other things differently. Then again I am here on this board and not in the front office so maybe doing the opposite of what I would do is spot on.

For that matter I would have paid Brees months ago, etc. So I guess I am not your cut throat businessman.

[panthers55]

If you wait.... you let him get even better....which cost more.

And more importantly, let him see year 5....and maybe he plays hardball and thinks about leaving. You think Carolina wants his mind working like that? They will lock him up for a long time as soon as they get the chance.

I won't be debating this ad nauseum for the next 3 years while we wait for this to play out, but what I would do which is sign him early and pay him whatever we need to in order to lock him in long-term doesn't always fit what they choose to do these days.

[panthers55]

I'm pretty sure Smith had a couple of years left on his rookie contract before he signed an extension, AND this year he still had a year on that contract an extended him AGAIN. We didn't extend Johnson, Deangelo because there was a fuging labor dispute the following year.

I was wrong about Smith the first time, but not the second. His contract expired after the 2011 season so he would have been a free agent if we didn't lock him up at the last minute.

[panthers55]

Quiet down...Jerry Richardson is not a businessman

EconP55

Posted by the guy who isn't even a "thousand" aire........

[panthers55]

Obviously we think like a billionaire...not a maroon who thinks he's always right

Just because you ate at Denny's and Hardee's a few times doesn't make you think a billionaire. Then again, you are a legend in your own mind and still butthurt about the Panthers picking Kuechly as I said we would over all your Aaron Curry BS.

[jtnc]

I was wrong about Smith the first time, but not the second. His contract expired after the 2011 season so he would have been a free agent if we didn't lock him up at the last minute.

You're wrong, Steve Smith wasn't a Ufa until after the 2012 season.

[KendrickPanther]

Gronk just got a big deal with 2 years left on his rookie contract. What do the Patriots know....

[jtnc]

lol I can't wait until Panthro responds.

[panthers55]

You're wrong, Steve Smith wasn't a Ufa until after the 2012 season.

We had until July to lock him up before he became a free agent at the end of the 2012 season. The only reason we did it now was to gain cap room. Sure we could have waited until after the season but we would have gained nothing and instead we gained almost 5 million in cap room. So I would agree we could have waited later but for all practical purposes we waited as long as we should have. Signing Stewart this offseason would be an early signing.

[panthers55]

lol I can't wait until Panthro responds.

Yeah maybe we can hear more about Aaron Curry.......................

[jtnc]

We had until July to lock him up before he became a free agent at the end of the 2012 season. The only reason we did it now was to gain cap room. Sure we could have waited until after the season but we would have gained nothing and instead we gained almost 5 million in cap room. So I would agree we could have waited later but for all practical purposes we waited as long as we should have. Signing Stewart this offseason would be an early signing.

Ummmm that's only for players who were franchise tagged.

[panthers55]

We had until July to lock him up before he became a free agent at the end of the 2012 season. The only reason we did it now was to gain cap room. By making Wharton a June 1 cut we needed cap room and that was the easiest thing to do. In fact I advocated doing it weeks before it happened. Sure we could have waited until after the season but we would have gained nothing and instead we gained almost 5 million in cap room. So I would agree we could have waited later but for all practical purposes we waited as long as we should have. Signing Stewart this offseason would be an early signing.