FA projected losses over next 2 years

[Leeroy Jenkins PhD]

Carolina has the 2nd most of its starters signed over the next two years.

Projected to lose 3 in 2013 and 3 in 2014. 6 players lost is second best only to philly at 4.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8163278/nfl-bears-lions-jets-teams-face-major-2013-14-free-agent-decisions

[CarolinaPanthers8789]

The cap genious J.R. at his finest.

[KendrickPanther]

Yeah but it said Philly is $18m over next years Cap. Early in the offseason we were quoted as over next years cap as well (before Steve extended). We have $8m in space we can carry over to next year but we are 2 years away from cutting guys to resign Cam.

[jtnc]

The cap genious J.R. at his finest.

Hurney manages the cap, not JR.

[CarolinaPanthers8789]

Whoever manages the cap is a genius.

[TANTRIC-NINJA]

No many on the Huddle say he sucks...your right they are wrong.

If Brees got 40 mil in yr one of his contract we can do it as well bc New Orleans had a ton of free agents to sign.

[panthers55]

Yeah but it said Philly is $18m over next years Cap. Early in the offseason we were quoted as over next years cap as well (before Steve extended). We have $8m in space we can carry over to next year but we are 2 years away from cutting guys to resign Cam.

Actually we had 118 million in cap space guaranteed for next year with 43 signed. It didn't include Smith.

And Cam has a 4 year contract with a 5th year option so we are at least 3 if not 4 years away from having to resign Cam.

[iamhubby1]

Core players being locked up is what you hope for. Then you build from there. If a young guy becomes part of the core, you compensate and keep him. The Panther Org. is very good in this regard. Or not, depending on what player you like or dislike.

Hurney is good with the cap. He seems to know when to front load, and when to back load contracts. We always take care of our own. And we have been relatively successful doing it his way. The hate is not for his cap management. It is for his stupid personnel moves.

We are rising, we are close, and we already scare the beegees outta folks.

[KendrickPanther]

Yeah...I said before we extended Steve. That means he didn't count towards next years cap...

Cam can extend his contract following the 3rd season. The sooner you resign him to a long term deal, the less leverage he has. If you wait until the 5th year he will have all the power in negotiations and command a ridiculous contract. Extending him early at a lower rate is a win for both parties as cam will make diddly poo his 4th year. Imagine a scenario like this: Cam resigns following the 2013 season, he then wins the Super Bowl following the 2014 season. He is already locked up, he has no leverage to command over $20m a year.

We made cap room this year by pushing some money into later years. Hurney will be cutting and restructuring for years to come. Not everyone is safe.

[Ivan The Awesome]

Let's worry about something that's far off and out of our control, whooohoooooooooo!

If you look at the numbers. 6 compared to, what i'm guessing at, an average of 10 players is good to me.

Also, I remember a couple of years ago the people that were resigned that were potential losses.. A lot. It's a non issue, Hurney knows his poo.

[KendrickPanther]

Core players being locked up is what you hope for. Then you build from there. If a young guy becomes part of the core, you compensate and keep him. The Panther Org. is very good in this regard. Or not, depending on what player you like or dislike.

Hurney is good with the cap. He seems to know when to front load, and when to back load contracts. We always take care of our own. And we have been relatively successful doing it his way. The hate is not for his cap management. It is for his stupid personnel moves.

We are rising, we are close, and we already scare the beegees outta folks.

Can you name an example of Hurney front loading a contract? I can't think of one. Hurney does ok with the cap but not great. Sure we made room by cutting Travelle Wharton but the result was us using a 2nd round pick to fill his slot. Had we been smarter with the cap and kept Travelle we could have filled another need. Deangelo Williams is not safe. There is no way he finishes his contract, watch for that about the time they resign Cam.

[Montsta]

Luckily, it's against the rules of the new CBA to even offer Cam an extension prior to year 4 I believe. So we don't have to go through that awkward 'why haven't you extended him yet' phase. It's pretty cut and dry our window to get that done so I'm not worried.

[Montsta]

Can you name an example of Hurney front loading a contract? I can't think of one. Hurney does ok with the cap but not great. Sure we made room by cutting Travelle Wharton but the result was us using a 2nd round pick to fill his slot. Had we been smarter with the cap and kept Travelle we could have filled another need. Deangelo Williams is not safe. There is no way he finishes his contract, watch for that about the time they resign Cam.

Charles Johnson got paid $30MM for what that's worth.

[Real Emotional Trash]

Cap Topic Natural Progression Over Past 3 Years:

1 person calls Hurney a genius

Someone else mocks people who insult Hurney

Someone else makes a point about the cap and how the team is never out of the clear

Someone makes fun of the whole posturing of the topic to begin with

Then Jimmy Clausen's Black Eye points out how small Matt Ryan's dick is in his signature.