Stephen Davis already experiencing memory loss

[TANTRIC-NINJA]

I can verify he does have the problems paying bills..but so do his employess lol.. Can I claim concussions syndrome in my epic intramural basketball-softball career?

[jtnc]

Hindsight is 20/20. Show me an article or something from 15 years ago talking about the dangers of concussions and I'll believe you

Abstract

Among the many features common to all species of the animal kingdom is the transient loss of function of the nervous system as the result of a jarring blow, a phenomenon known as concussion. Understanding of concussion has been hampered by the lack of a uniform definition, with many authors including cases with gross, irreversible changes. The phenomenon occurs only with a blow that significantly accelerates and thus is best defined as “a transient disturbance of neuronal function as a result of acceleration”. There must be a threshold beneath which no loss of function occurs and a ceiling beyond which changes are not reversible. Experiments with non-anesthetized frogs revealed that at 33 g only the occasional frog would be stunned. From 50 to 230 g, consciousness was always lost but rapidly regained and retained, while beyond, the loss was not always reversible. The time of functional loss was increasingly proportional to acceleration.

Study done on animals in 1987.

http://www.sciencedi...090301988900948'

The head coaches and players of 103 secondary school football teams in Minnesota were asked to respond to mail questionnaires. Information about injury incidence and concomitant health care provision was elicited. Responses from 3,063 players (81 per cent) yielded a total injury rate of 78 injuries/100 players; 19/100 players reported a concussion experience characterized by loss of consciousness and/or loss of awareness. Of the players who experienced a loss of consciousness, 69 per cent were returned to play the same day. Persistent concussion symptoms were reported as long as six to nine months following the end of the season; six cases involved permanent disabilities. Continued use of illegal techniques of butt-blocking and face-tackling by as many as 40 per cent of the players was associated with apparent increased risks of concussions and concussion symptoms. Players with a prior history of loss of consciousness had a risk of loss of consciousness four times that of the player without a prior history.

Read More: http://ajph.aphapubl...AJPH.73.12.1370

Published in 1983.

Concussion is the most common head injury in sports. The injury ranges from a simple "ding" to prolonged loss of consciousness with amnesia. Proper grading of the severity of the injury is necessary to establish a protocol for deciding when to allow an athlete to return to his or her sport. This approach to concussions will minimize the risk of further, even fatal, complications.

http://ukpmc.ac.uk/abstract/MED/8079910

Published in 1994

Concussion (defined as a traumatically induced alteration in mental status, not necessarily with loss of consciousness) is a common form of sports-related injury too often dismissed as trivial by physicians, athletic trainers, coaches, sports reporters, and athletes themselves. While head injuries can occur in virtually any form of athletic activity, they occur most frequently in contact sports, such as football, boxing, and martial arts competition, or from high-velocity collisions or falls in basketball, soccer, and ice hockey. The pathophysiology of concussion is less well understood than that of severe head injury, and it has received less attention as a result. We describe a high school football player who died of diffuse brain swelling after repeated concussions without loss of consciousness. Guidelines have been developed to reduce the risk of such serious catastrophic outcomes after concussion in sports.

Published in 1991

http://jama.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=393493

[Pantherman]

Obviously they are, same with the Union. The NFL union seems like they want the NFL to collapse.

Well if that is the case. Then why don't the NFLPA just pack up and leave. I'm sure the NFL and the owners can start the league over again by draft young college players. I'm sure there is thousands of young guys out there waiting for the chance to make some good money. Sooner or later the NFLPA is going to go down. Because some players will get tired of all of the drama and just want to play football and make a decent living. I'm sure the NFL ain't to worried about all this. NFL will never go down. NFLPA has a better chance of going down then the NFL does. For the fact they have the money and the players don't.

[thatlookseasy]

Study done on animals in 1987.

http://www.sciencedi...090301988900948'

Read More: http://ajph.aphapubl...AJPH.73.12.1370

Published in 1983.

http://ukpmc.ac.uk/a...act/MED/8079910

Published in 1994

Published in 1991

http://jama.jamanetw...rticleid=393493

Appreciate the find. Kind of makes you wonder why the NFL and more importantly the NFLPA didnt try to implement any of those ideas sooner

[Doyle]

Who is Stephen Davis? I can't remember.

[nickzz]

Do you guys really think players knew the long term consequences of concussions 10-15 years ago?

I mean for god sake they didnt even come out of the game

i would hope they knew getting hit in the head repetitively would end up not being too good for their brains

[thatlookseasy]

i would hope they knew getting hit in the head repetitively would end up not being too good for their brains

I guess you cant believe everything you hear

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/2007-06-18-concussions-cover_N.htm

An NFL study of active players, done over six seasons (1996-2001) and published in 2004 found "no evidence of worsening injury or chronic cumulative effects" from multiple concussions. In a related study, the league found "many NFL players can be safely allowed to return to play" on the day of a concussion if they are without symptoms and cleared by a physician.

[PantherPhann89]

I see both sides of the injury lawsuit: Yes, I agree that the players should carry more responsibility of there injuries but I also agree that the NFL should carry responsibility as well, particulary because they were mentally pushed to get back in the game or the next game as soon as possible. The NFL does bare responsibility because of the pressure thats placed on injuried players to return to the game, without taking the extra precautions to help prevent them. The Players does bare responsibility because they knew how dangerous the game was when they started to play. But even aside from this, the majority of these guys have been playing football since popwarner,. They've taking a lot of hits since then. They probably suffered concusions prior to getting into the NFL and didn't know it and now the NFL is being blamed for all of the concussions. Whose side am I on, I don't even know myself...so I'll give it a shot. I believe that all NFL Players have a medical plan, if so...there medical coverages through the NFL, should cover the injuries. This plan should work much like the medical plans many of us has on our jobs.

[nickzz]

I guess you cant believe everything you hear

http://www.usatoday....ons-cover_N.htm

i'm just saying, they had to have some idea of it being detrimental to their long-term health when they started playing the game. just seems like common sense.

[panthers55]

It wil be interesting to see how these lawsuits work out. No doubt the damage was done but whether or not you can say the NFL is negligent is another matter all together. Seems the players played of their own free will and most folks didn't know about or consider the risks down the road. Now when the symptoms start they are looking for people to blame.

[thatlookseasy]

If I were those guys I would blame the NFLPA first. You know, the group whose sole purpose is to look out for them. But I guess they dont really care what happens to players once they retire

[4Corners]

Big fan of Stephen Davis, but I'm curious about his current financial situation.

Is he broke from poor investments or irresponsible spending?

Does he have four different baby mamas?

Pardon the bluntness, and I'm sure some will take this entirely out of context, but I'm starting to think that a lot of these ex-NFL players are just broke and looking for an easy way to get their hands back in the billion dollar piggy bank of the NFL.

[TANTRIC-NINJA]

Big fan of Stephen Davis, but I'm curious about his current financial situation.

Is he broke from poor investments or irresponsible spending?

Does he have four different baby mamas?

Pardon the bluntness, and I'm sure some will take this entirely out of context, but I'm starting to think that a lot of these ex-NFL players are just broke and looking for an easy way to get their hands back in the billion dollar piggy bank of the NFL.

He lives in a really big compound in Columbia,SC. He owns a few night clubs here as well which ..seem to be bleeding money..

He is a partner in a few resturants and this being Columbia, SC nothing is really making money like Charlotte business.

Even Deidra Lane(who keeps Fred Lanes last name!) tried to start a business here...no shots were fired but it closed down in 6 months.

[rayzor]

Its no secret. Your wearing a helmet playing a violent sport. Your head is going to get knocked around, some positions more than others. No one is making you play the sport. You get paid, very well, to play.

Personal responsibility. Don't want to take the risk? Stop playing. Or learn to know when you should stop. Do I feel bad? Yes, the guy was a fantastic football player. But who else do you have to blame for the personal choice you made?

except it's only been recently that the long term effects have been studied. it's only recently that they've found what kind of impact those injuries are having on the brain.