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Ray Allen to Heat

King Taharqa

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Having a 30 team league where only one team has the opportunity to get star players below market value is going to hurt the long-term health of those markets. Either contract small markets that can't afford to spend or fix the system that you should have fixed during the lockout. What's the point of playing if a league is going to openly allow collusion?

Say what you want about Roger Goodell, but this is what happens to a league when you give the players way too much power.

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The problem is sports is built on and relies on player greed. GMs and owners are dependent on athletes ALWAYS going after the highest bidder, that is why they clear cap space and throw big money at guys. Always using money as their leverage over the athlete. Miami is a situation where players have said its not about the $$$ and have come together to win titles. Guys like LeBron, Battier, and now Allen have taken less money to play under a great basketball mind like Pat Riley in a place like south Florida. I don't see the crime in that.

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The problem is sports is built on and relies on player greed. GMs and owners are dependent on athletes ALWAYS going after the highest bidder, that is why they clear cap space and throw big money at guys. Always using money as their leverage over the athlete. Miami is a situation where players have said its not about the $$$ and have come together to win titles. Guys like LeBron, Battier, and now Allen have taken less money to play under a great basketball mind like Pat Riley in a place like south Florida. I don't see the crime in that.

The crime isn't that the players want to come together. The crime is that luxuries like that are not afforded (literally) to other franchises. The Bobcats and 90% of the NBA cannot afford to spend the type of money to put something like that together.

When the playing field becomes slanted in certain teams' favor, that's when it becomes collusion. It's a problem. Fix it.

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How exactly would you "fix" it? Implementing a hard salary cap would just prevent teams like the Thunder from re-signing their own players. And the luxury tax is going to become much more severe in a year or two, so there isnt much more you can do there.

Ultimately, there isnt anything you can do to stop veterans from taking less money to try an win a ring without scrapping free agency entirely. Also, lets not pretend like Miami has just been bringing in great players for dirt cheap that often. Mike Miller has been, with the exception of a couple games in the finals, a huge disappointment. Battier wasnt particularly good last year either (though he was awesome in the first few finals games)

Its not really a big market/ small market thing anyway, since Ray Allen just turned down more money to play for a bigger market in Boston for the chance to win a ring in Miami

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How exactly would you "fix" it? Implementing a hard salary cap would just prevent teams like the Thunder from re-signing their own players. And the luxury tax is going to become much more severe in a year or two, so there isnt much more you can do there.

Ultimately, there isnt anything you can do to stop veterans from taking less money to try an win a ring without scrapping free agency entirely. Also, lets not pretend like Miami has just been bringing in great players for dirt cheap that often. Mike Miller has been, with the exception of a couple games in the finals, a huge disappointment. Battier wasnt particularly good last year either (though he was awesome in the first few finals games)

Its not really a big market/ small market thing anyway, since Ray Allen just turned down more money to play for a bigger market in Boston for the chance to win a ring in Miami

I'm not sure exactly how it would work, but just fix it so the league parity becomes like that of the NFL, where the talent is, for the most part, evenly spread out and markets like Green Bay can keep their star players. A hard cap would be a start. An increase in the luxury tax is just a bandage on a gash.

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