Saints* suspensions upheld

[rayzor]

What's amazing is each one of you in this thread leaves the conversation saying "Damn he might be a Saints** fan but when it comes down to it he is right"

what's amazing is just how deep this delusion goes.

might want to read this and talk to your doctor: http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/292991-overview

[Peppers90 NC]

Please learn your football before making stupid comments:

Lofton was one of just four linebackers to record more than 300 tackles during the last three season. London Fletcher, Stephen Tulloch and Chad Greenway were the others.

James Anderson had almost that in the last two seasons. Does that make him good? Oh, and your football knowledge is severely lacking if you think only 4 guys averaged just 100 tackles in the last 3 seasons.

[Peppers90 NC]

What's amazing is each one of you in this thread leaves the conversation saying "Damn he might be a Saints** fan but when it comes down to it he is right" That is why the rebuttals are personal attacks and not a counter opinion to the things I state. Don't worry, you aren't the first Panther fans that been put in their place by an educated Saints** fan.

why argue with a clown who's only responses are false? you will never understand or see the actual truth, it is beyond you. it is above you. and frankly, you just don't have the brain capacity to get it. go back to wearing a paper bag on your head, that is what the Saints* fans will always be known for.

[SCP]

What's amazing is each one of you in this thread leaves the conversation saying "Damn he might be a Saints*** fan but when it comes down to it he is right" That is why the rebuttals are personal attacks and not a counter opinion to the things I state. Don't worry, you aren't the first Panther fans that been put in their place by an educated Saints*** fan.

I sure as hell never thought you were right. Sean Payton is being awfully quite. Maybe his drug theft incident is being dangled over his head to keep him quite, who knows. The Saints** were told to stop, they didn't stop and laughed in Goodells face about it. He is the commish. The Nflpa agreed to a CBA with the nfl. The commish is god and the Saints** lied and cheated and got caught. God reached down and bitch slapped that dirty organization. Deal with it Saints** troll. Or go put on your Patriots jersey til this blows over.

[rayzor]

everyone from the top down in that organization admitted it happened. benson knew. benson told them to stop.

loomis knew. benson told him to tell payton and them to stop. they didn't.

payton admitted it was wrong. that is admitting it happened, correct?

williams admitted it was wrong. that is admitting it happened, correct?

these players and Saints* fans are morons. get a clue. you got caught. suck it up. acknowledge that the bag faced franchise will forever have an asterisk beside it's name on the list of superbowl winners. get used to it.

that offense was great. it's a shame that it wasn't enough to win all those games and that ring on their own. the defense that always held them back after brees showed up and gave them credibility for the first time in 40 years. looks like it will be that way forever. 15 minutes of respect lasted longer than it should have. now the franchise is an annoying joke to the rest of the league...again.

[breezing2anotherSB]

everyone from the top down in that organization admitted it happened. benson knew. benson told them to stop.

loomis knew. benson told him to tell payton and them to stop. they didn't.

payton admitted it was wrong. that is admitting it happened, correct?

williams admitted it was wrong. that is admitting it happened, correct?

these players and Saints** fans are morons. get a clue. you got caught. suck it up. acknowledge that the bag faced franchise will forever have an asterisk beside it's name on the list of superbowl winners. get used to it.

that offense was great. it's a shame that it wasn't enough to win all those games and that ring on their own. the defense that always held them back after brees showed up and gave them credibility for the first time in 40 years. looks like it will be that way forever. 15 minutes of respect lasted longer than it should have. now the franchise is an annoying joke to the rest of the league...again.

There you go again. Show me one ONE 1 statement where anyone in the Saints* organizations admits to being a part of or knowing about a bounty program. Please find it and post it but if you can't please come back and admit you were were wrong in making these statements.

[rayzor]

There you go again. Show me one ONE 1 statement where anyone in the Saints** organizations admits to being a part of or knowing about a bounty program. Please find it and post it but if you can't please come back and admit you were were wrong in making these statements.

lol really...ok.

As it relates to Saints** G.M. Mickey Loomis, the most troubling aspect of the league’s announcement regarding the team’s bounty system comes in two sentences: “Mr. Benson advised league staff that he had directed his general manager, Mickey Loomis, to ensure that any bounty program be discontinued immediately. The evidence showed that Mr. Loomis did not carry out Mr. Benson’s directions.”

http://profootballta...omis-seems-odd/

New Orleans Saints** Sean Payton and Mickey Loomis release a statement on bounty scandal

03/06/12 4:10PM

New Orleans Saints** coach Sean Payton and general manager Mickey Loomis issued a joint statement on the bounty scandal:

We acknowledge that the violations disclosed by the NFL during their investigation of our club happened under our watch. We take full responsibility.

This has brought undue hardship on Mr. Benson, who had nothing to do with this activity. He has been nothing but supportive and for that we both apologize to him.

These are serious violations and we understand the negative impact it has had on our game. Both of us have made it clear within our organization that this will never happen again, and make that same promise to the NFL and most importantly to all of our fans.

Mickey Loomis & Sean Payton

http://www.nola.com/..._payton_19.html

Gregg Williams issues a statement on the New Orleans Saints** bounty scandal

03/21/12 4:07PM

Former New Orleans Saints** defensive coordinator Gregg Williams, who is now with the St. Louis Rams, issued a statement after the NFL levied the punishment against the Saints** and him today.

"I'd like to again apologize wholeheartedly to the NFL, Coach Fisher, the entire Rams organization and all football fans for my actions. Furthermore, I apologize to the players of the NFL for my involvement as it is not a true reflection of my values as a father or coach, nor is it reflective of the great respect I have for this game and its core principle of sportsmanship. I accept full responsibility for my actions. I highly value the 23 years that I've spent in the NFL. I will continue to cooperate fully with the league and its investigation and I will focus my energies on serving as an advocate for both player safety and sportsmanship. I will do everything possible to re-earn the respect of my colleagues, the NFL and its players in hopes of returning to coaching in the future."

http://www.nola.com/...s_a_statem.html

btw...check out the links, esp. for those last two.

[breezing2anotherSB]

James Anderson had almost that in the last two seasons. Does that make him good? Oh, and your football knowledge is severely lacking if you think only 4 guys averaged just 100 tackles in the last 3 seasons.

Really? Severely lacking? Please don't try to challenge me on things you know nothing about. Commenting is one thing but making totally ignorant statements is just lazy.

Listing of players and tackles over the last 3 years

Rank Player Snaps Tks

1 London Fletcher-Baker 308

2 Stephen Tulloch 308

3 Curtis Lofton 305

4 Chad Greenway 302

5 James Laurinaitis 299

6 Patrick Willis 287

7 Paul Posluszny 273

8 David Hawthorne 270

9 Ray Lewis 268

10 Jerod Mayo 245

10 D.J. Williams 267

[breezing2anotherSB]

lol really...ok.

btw...check out the links, esp. for those last two.

Did you not read my post? Show me ONE link, ONE quote, ONE statement where any coach or player or front office person admits to a bounty program. In the statements and links you provided there is not one sentence where there is an admittance of a bounty program. There is a reason for this, there wasn't one! Can't you get it through your head that the NFL started this process and used unreliable, inaccurate information that snowballed and now they don't know how to get out of it.

By the way, you link that refers to the NFL stating that they had tried twice to shut it down came from the NFL. You really consider that reliable. LMAO

[Peppers90 NC]

Really? Severely lacking? Please don't try to challenge me on things you know nothing about. Commenting is one thing but making totally ignorant statements is just lazy.

Listing of players and tackles over the last 3 years

Rank Player Snaps Tks

1 London Fletcher-Baker 308

2 Stephen Tulloch 308

3 Curtis Lofton 305

4 Chad Greenway 302

5 James Laurinaitis 299

6 Patrick Willis 287

7 Paul Posluszny 273

8 David Hawthorne 270

9 Ray Lewis 268

10 Jerod Mayo 245

10 D.J. Williams 267

your numbers are way off bro. Mayo 373, James Anderson 340(only started 2 yrs). I wont even do any more because you can't count anyway.

[thatlookseasy]

your numbers are way off bro. Mayo 373, James Anderson 340(only started 2 yrs). I wont even do any more because you can't count anyway.

He doesnt trust the NFL to properly record the number of tackles so he adds them up himself

[SCP]

"We acknowledge that the violations disclosed by the NFL during their investigation of our club happened under our watch. We take full responsibility."

Yep, this statement from Loomis and Payton totally screams "we didn't do it".

[TheRed]

"We acknowledge that the violations disclosed by the NFL during their investigation of our club happened under our watch. We take full responsibility."

Yep, this statement from Loomis and Payton totally screams "we didn't do it".

That's propaganda by the NFL and the dictator roger goodell. Drew brees said it never happened, it must be true!

[breezing2anotherSB]

your numbers are way off bro. Mayo 373, James Anderson 340(only started 2 yrs). I wont even do any more because you can't count anyway.

BWAHAHAHAHAH 340 tackles in 2 years? LMAO If you are counting assist in your definition of tackles then it proves you are a bigger moron then I thought. Make sure you aren't doing that before you get embarrassed even further.