Predict the Panthers record - game by game version

[Gman was right]

That would be foolish, I'm glad I'm not doing that. I don't think this fact has yet sunk in with you however.

I can see why you pick us to have a losing record, though. From your perspective, we win games by throwing a "prayer" "hail mary pass" that is a "fluke" and "alot of it was luck" I guess our players all had horseshoes up their ass last year. Takes a LOT of luck to go 12-4

Good! So you finally admit there is nothing wrong with picking us to split with the saints since they are a good football team and last year has nothing to do with this year. That wasnt so hard to admit was it?

Did the panthers win all 12 games with fluke hail mary passes at the end of a game? Not to my knowledge. They feasted on cup cake and mediocre teams. Thats how they went 12-4!

[R0CKnR0LLA]

Good! So you finally admit there is nothing wrong with picking us to split with the saints since they are a good football team and last year has nothing to do with this year. That wasnt so hard to admit was it?

Actually, I never said anything like this. I merely pointed out (for the 4th time now I believe) that I'm not simply carrying over what happened from last year. I'm making judgment calls based on talent, using previous play to judge this talent. Reading comprehension isn't your strong point I'm guessing.

[Gman was right]

Actually, I never said anything like this. I merely pointed out (for the 4th time now I believe) that I'm not simply carrying over what happened from last year. I'm making judgment calls based on talent, using previous play to judge this talent. Reading comprehension isn't your strong point I'm guessing.

I fully understood what you wrote. Its nice to see you backpedaled off of your original statement though. Saying thats its wrong to predict a split with the saints just because we swept them last year is a little bit silly. Glad you finally came around.

[R0CKnR0LLA]

Yeah I know who their QB is... its Mark Sanchez. Teams have won with rookie qbs you realize I hope. Remember the ass whooping the falcons put on us with a rookie QB? Remember the ravens going to the afc title game with a rookie QB?

I dont think its more likely we would win that game.

If you really think it's likely that Sanchez makes an impact as quickly as Ryan or Flacco then that pretty much sums up you're knowledge about football.

[R0CKnR0LLA]

I fully understood what you wrote. Its nice to see you backpedaled off of your original statement though. Saying thats its wrong to predict a split with the saints just because we swept them last year is a little bit silly. Glad you finally came around.

There's no backpedaling off original statements. It just took you awhile to realize that I'm making these calls on talent, not simply carrying over past records.

[Gman was right]

If you really think it's likely that Sanchez makes an impact as quickly as Ryan or Flacco then that pretty much sums up you're knowledge about football.

Then put your money where your mouth is. You said the panthers will be heavy favorites at New York against the Jets. Im betting you that barring any major injuries the jets will be favored in that game. If my football knowledge is so limited then you will take me up on that challenge right?

[Gman was right]

There's no backpedaling off original statements. It just took you awhile to realize that I'm making these calls on talent, not simply carrying over past records.

No, you said it was wrong for me to predict a split with the saints because we swept them last year as if last year determines the out come of all future division games. Now you are changing your mind all of a sudden because you realize how silly that is.

[R0CKnR0LLA]

Then put your money where your mouth is. You said the panthers will be heavy favorites at New York against the Jets. Im betting you that barring any major injuries the jets will be favored in that game. If my football knowledge is so limited then you will take me up on that challenge right?

I'll take a bet that we win that game. And not with any of this "barring any major injuries" crap, that's a risk you take with both teams.

No, you said it was wrong for me to predict a split with the saints because we swept them last year as if last year determines the out come of all future division games. Now you are changing your mind all of a sudden because you realize how silly that is.

Maybe it came across to you like that. I was bringing up past games as evidence that we have more talent, as is apparent if you watched these games. And more talent, generally means you will be more likely to win in the future. Also, note that I brought up their draft to show the very limited talent they have added. I guess you just failed to make these connections, I will spell everything out more clearly in the future.

[Gman was right]

I'll take a bet that we win that game. And not with any of this "barring any major injuries" crap, that's a risk you take with both teams.

Maybe it came across to you like that. I was bringing up past games as evidence that we have more talent, as is apparent if you watched these games. And more talent, generally means you will be more likely to win in the future. Also, note that I brought up their draft to show the very limited talent they have added. I guess you just failed to make these connections, I will spell everything out more clearly in the future.

Sheesh you're back pedaling AGAIN? You "guaranteed" me that the panthers would be heavy favorites at the jets so why not back up your guarantee? Are you afraid now? And injuries are a huge factor because if the panthers were to lose Steve Smith and John beason for the year you would be backing off of this bet. Thats why I said barring any major injuries to both teams. Do we have a deal or are you back pedaling off of your guarantee?

And as I also pointed out to you the saints had the most injuries of anyone in the league and still had the #1 offense and finished 8-8. And as I also pointed out they had some nice additions to thier defense as well. I guess you failed to make those connections as well that they will be alot tougher than they were last year. I will spell everything out to make things more clearly next time.

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[Gman was right]

You boys having fun?...

I know I am. Thanks for asking.

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I know I am. Thanks for asking.

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[R0CKnR0LLA]

You "guaranteed" me that the panthers would be heavy favorites at the jets so why not back up your guarantee?

No I didn't, read it again. You're the one that said flat out guarantee. As I said before, there's no guarantee in football.

Thats why I said barring any major injuries to both teams. Do we have a deal or are you back pedaling off of your guarantee?

A "major" injury is somewhat subjective. I would never make a bet with that in it. I'd rather make a concrete, win or lose bet, and yes I'm willing to take that bet.

And as I also pointed out to you the saints had the most injuries of anyone in the league and still had the #1 offense and finished 8-8. And as I also pointed out they had some nice additions to thier defense as well.

They have the most injuries because they sign a bunch of players with high injury risk. They've already had two guys go on IR for the year, and TC hasn't even started. One of the "nice additions" you brought up was Dan Morgan. He's not an injury risk at all right? Every team makes additions, I don't think they've improved enough that they will beat us. You can disagree, that's fine.

[Gman was right]

No I didn't, read it again. You're the one that said flat out guarantee. As I said before, there's no guarantee in football.

A "major" injury is somewhat subjective. I would never make a bet with that in it. I'd rather make a concrete, win or lose bet, and yes I'm willing to take that bet.

They have the most injuries because they sign a bunch of players with high injury risk. They've already had two guys go on IR for the year, and TC hasn't even started. One of the "nice additions" you brought up was Dan Morgan. He's not an injury risk at all right? Every team makes additions, I don't think they've improved enough that they will beat us. You can disagree, that's fine.

"I can almost guarantee that we will be heavy favorites in that game"

Sounds close enough to a guarantee to me. What? You're not so confident anymore? Sure sounds like you are backpedaling to me. If my football knowledge is so limited then you should have no problems taking me up on this challenge.

Its highly unlikely that saints just signed people that were all injury prone and they all ended up on IR and it highly unlikely they will have 14 players on IR again this year. You're right I do have a right to disagree which is why I did. Then why are you pouting about it?