Why Michael Kidd-Gilchrist fits the Bobcats system (my write-up)

[koolkatluke]

Remember that video you posted as a response to my comments about his offense earlier? Did you even watch his negatives portion of the video? You're taking too much of an offense to what you've actually shown me.

All of that high energy stuff is great, I'm glad we got the guy, but if you believe that all he needs to do is fix his jumpshot then you're sadly mistaken. He needs to retool all of his offensive moves.

Gerald Wallace could post up, Gerald Wallace could finish, Gerald Wallace was an EXCELLENT fastbreak player; however, he still couldn't dribble half the time, turned the ball over constantly when his offensive drives were stalled out because of his lack of handles, and his offense basically came down to "which body part is he going to sacrifice next, just so he can get a chance to attack the basket"

Hell, the guy had to literally sacrifice his spleen if I recall just because all he could do in his offensive repitoire was tuck his head and run to the basket.

If MKG could develop and offensive skillset like Tyreke Evans we'd have found our Lebron James for the next 10 years, but the dude will require the utmost development if he's going to be anything more than a glorified role player.

Still he's 18 and WANTS to be the best player that he can, so I can get behind that and sip the kool-aid as well.

Edit: and lol at you thinking I don't know poo about Basketball, I've played both basketball and football almost all of my life :lol:

At 18 he already can do what Gerald can. The difference is this kid has better handles already and a better offensive mind set.

I'm telling you being a scorer is not just about a jump shot. The kid can get points in other ways while he works on his jumper.

[rico6]

I dont think you read a single line of my post; however, it's pointless to keep ranting about our new player. I hope him the best and i pray the staff can actually develop him correctly. The rest will be up to MKG.

[koolkatluke]

I dont think you read a single line of my post; however, it's pointless to keep ranting about our new player. I hope him the best and i pray the staff can actually develop him correctly. The rest will be up to MKG.

No your problem is you are comparing a 18 year old to the 26-27 year old Gerald. This kid is already doing now what Gerald was doing in his Prime.

You are also not factoring in that he got less shot att. per game (because he played on a allstar team) and wasn't the focal point of his offense. He will get more Att. and develop more on the Bobcats then he did in UK.

You will see him get more ISO plays. More jumpers off screens and give and goes and more plays ran for him in the pros.

I promise he will be a better scorer in the Pro's then he was in college.

These Are Gerald 18 year old stats.

Season GP MPG PPG FG% 3FG% FT% APG RPG BPG SPG

2000-01 36 22.9 9.8 43.8 17.5 56.8 1.5 6.0 1.0 1.2

Andre Stats Andre Iguodala Stat Summary: Season GP MPG PPG FG% 3FG% FT% APG RPG BPG SPG

2003-04 30 32.1 12.9 45.0 31.5 78.8 4.9 8.4 0.4 1.6 2002-03 32 19.2 6.4 38.1 20.5 67.0 2.1 4.9 0.6 1.5 Career 62 25.4 9.6 42.4 27.3 73.7 3.4 6.6 0.5 1.5

MKG already ahead of the cruve. And remember he played on a team where 6 player got drafted off it.

Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Stat Summary: Season GP MPG PPG FG% 3FG% FT% APG RPG BPG SPG

2011-12 40 31.1 11.9 49.1 25.5 74.5 1.9 7.4 0.9 1.0

[rico6]

Gerald was a role player in college, coincidentally he became a glorified role player in the pros. He also played on team where there were NO future first round picks to draw defensive and offensive focus off of.

[koolkatluke]

Gerald was a role player in college, coincidentally he became a glorified role player in the pros. He also played on team where there were NO future first round picks to draw defensive and offensive focus off of.

Correct!!! Gerald could have put up crazy numbers if he was as good as MKG is now.

MKG played for the good of the team not himself. He could have put up more points on a different team.

[panthersfan1980]

great writeup

[carpanfan96]

This wasn't a great draft for Star player types, it was a deep draft that was filled with reliable starters and 6th men type players.

Next years draft is heavy at the top on Star players with Zeller, Muhammeed, Noel and JMM. A few others that could also make that jump into that type of talk as well.

MKG was a great pick for the future, just not next season. He doesn't have consistent dribble penetration moves, a reliable post move, a consistent jump shot or long range. He's exactly like Wallace was, but he does have more upside both offensively and defensively.

I think he hits a ceiling where he averages 20 PPG, 7 RPG, 2 APG, 1 SPG. Adding to his amazing defensive intensity and work ethic that will rub off on the rest of the team. The Bobcats just need to get that star player that can score in droves to pair with MKG, Walker and Biz.

[koolkatluke]

This wasn't a great draft for Star player types, it was a deep draft that was filled with reliable starters and 6th men type players.

Next years draft is heavy at the top on Star players with Zeller, Muhammeed, Noel and JMM. A few others that could also make that jump into that type of talk as well.

MKG was a great pick for the future, just not next season. He doesn't have consistent dribble penetration moves, a reliable post move, a consistent jump shot or long range. He's exactly like Wallace was, but he does have more upside both offensively and defensively.

I think he hits a ceiling where he averages 20 PPG, 7 RPG, 2 APG, 1 SPG. Adding to his amazing defensive intensity and work ethic that will rub off on the rest of the team. The Bobcats just need to get that star player that can score in droves to pair with MKG, Walker and Biz.

People are going to be sorely disappointed with Noel. He isn't Anthony Davis at all. Next year draft doesn't have the depth or star power of this years draft. Harrison Barnes went 7th. He would go top 3 if he was in next years draft.

I'll say this again MKG in the Pro's with teams not hand checking, running zones, and more free flow in bigger lanes will be a better offensive player. He has a very quick 1st step good at changing direction and is a very flexible athlete when attacking the basket. He will be a better offensive player in the pros.

[carpanfan96]

He wouldn't be top 3, lmao. haha

I'd take Zeller and Muhammed over Davis... Noel on the same level as Davis. (Davis is the guy that got blocked and allowed Biz to get a triple double on him in the world game) JMM is on the same level talent and potential wise as the second and third best players in this past draft were. (Beal or MKG)

Then you have a few other players that are really good with a chance at jumping into that elite level of talent and skill set potential wise. Added to that is a 7 foot euro league player that would've gone top 5 this year.

Much, much better of a draft top end wise then this one was and it's not even close.

Once the draft process finished this past draft took a plummet and wasn't considered as elite as many thought it would be. That's why the second pick was just the same as picking 8th or so. The talent was comparable. There was only one elite level talent in this draft and that was Davis who is questionable offensively and might just be a Marcus Camby type of player.

[cavic7585]

http://www.bobcatsbaseline.com/2012/mkg-is-the-future/comment-page-1/#comment-24385 Very good read

GM Rich Cho is a smart dude. President Rod Higgins is a smart dude.* They played the Wayne Gretzky by way of Steve Jobs card:

Don’t skate to where the puck is, skate to where it’s going. And judging from last month’s NBA Finals, the puck is going to an UBER-ATHLETIC place in which only the crazy-long, high of energy may roam.

Lebron James. Kevin Durant. Paul George. Luol Deng. Rudy Gay. Iggy. Danny Granger. Chris Bosh. Derrick Rose. John Wall.

Thomas Robinson only covers one of these guys on a good day. MKG can match up with ‘em all.

Robinson is an old-school bruiser who could’ve banged with Charles Barkley or Karl Malone back in the day. Meanwhile, this year’s Finals featured James and Durant playing the bulk of his team’s minutes at the four spot. I like Robinson but there’s no chance he’s checking either of those guys.

By adding Gilchrist to a squad which already includes Gerald Henderson (a near lockdown defender at both guard spots) and Bismack Biyombo (still developing but a defensive juggernaut in the making), the Bobcats have three players who could legitimately challenge for All-Defensive team in the near future.

MKG also fits perfectly with new head coach Mike Dunlap’s philosophy of fitness, effort and easy transition buckets. Good news, coach, MKG isn’t just “fit” he’s “relentless”. No player on the roster has been able to make Gana Diop or Tyrus Thomas feel bad for giving less than a 100% thus far but I think Gilchrist the “Culture-Changer” has a shot.

[koolkatluke]

He wouldn't be top 3, lmao. haha

I'd take Zeller and Muhammed over Davis... Noel on the same level as Davis. (Davis is the guy that got blocked and allowed Biz to get a triple double on him in the world game) JMM is on the same level talent and potential wise as the second and third best players in this past draft were. (Beal or MKG)

Then you have a few other players that are really good with a chance at jumping into that elite level of talent and skill set potential wise. Added to that is a 7 foot euro league player that would've gone top 5 this year.

Much, much better of a draft top end wise then this one was and it's not even close.

Once the draft process finished this past draft took a plummet and wasn't considered as elite as many thought it would be. That's why the second pick was just the same as picking 8th or so. The talent was comparable. There was only one elite level talent in this draft and that was Davis who is questionable offensively and might just be a Marcus Camby type of player.

You really have no clue.

1. If Anthony Davis came out next year he would be the number 1 pick. Shabazz nor Cody are considered Franchise Player Davis is. So you're wrong. Davis is Closer to KG and Duncan then he is Camby.

2. Noel has no Offense game at all he is more Marcus Camby then Davis is. Remember Davis was a guard 2 years ago he still has some guard skills. Noel has always been a Bigman.

3. JMM is a good player but he is a tweener SF/PF while MKG and Beal have certain position. Both ranked higher then JMM going into college.

4. With the player that stayed and the Freshman class that came in this draft was picked to be better. Next year draft won't be as good.

[koolkatluke]

http://www.bobcatsba.../#comment-24385 Very good read

GM Rich Cho is a smart dude. President Rod Higgins is a smart dude.* They played the Wayne Gretzky by way of Steve Jobs card:

Don’t skate to where the puck is, skate to where it’s going. And judging from last month’s NBA Finals, the puck is going to an UBER-ATHLETIC place in which only the crazy-long, high of energy may roam.

Lebron James. Kevin Durant. Paul George. Luol Deng. Rudy Gay. Iggy. Danny Granger. Chris Bosh. Derrick Rose. John Wall.

Thomas Robinson only covers one of these guys on a good day. MKG can match up with ‘em all.

Robinson is an old-school bruiser who could’ve banged with Charles Barkley or Karl Malone back in the day. Meanwhile, this year’s Finals featured James and Durant playing the bulk of his team’s minutes at the four spot. I like Robinson but there’s no chance he’s checking either of those guys.

By adding Gilchrist to a squad which already includes Gerald Henderson (a near lockdown defender at both guard spots) and Bismack Biyombo (still developing but a defensive juggernaut in the making), the Bobcats have three players who could legitimately challenge for All-Defensive team in the near future.

MKG also fits perfectly with new head coach Mike Dunlap’s philosophy of fitness, effort and easy transition buckets. Good news, coach, MKG isn’t just “fit” he’s “relentless”. No player on the roster has been able to make Gana Diop or Tyrus Thomas feel bad for giving less than a 100% thus far but I think Gilchrist the “Culture-Changer” has a shot.

Yes sir!!!

[koolkatluke]

Something also about MKG that is not mention is he's a 5 tool player.

Now for people who don't play Fantasy Basketball or know what a "5 tool player" is.

It's a person who can effect the game in 5 ways. Points, rebounds, steals, blocks, and assists.

[koolkatluke]

And this is for CarPanfan96. I pointed some parts out for you.

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/blog/_/name/nba_draft/id/8111253/an-early-look-2013-nba-draft

The 2012 NBA draft didn't have a lot of sizzle, but it had plenty of depth. With virtually all of the top underclassmen deciding to declare, it was stocked with talent. The 2013 draft? Ugh.

The 2013 draft is so devoid of top returning underclassmen and has such a marginal freshman class, one NBA scout said our 2013 Top 100 list may be the weakest since the dreaded 2000 NBA draft (check out our 2013 draft homepage here).

When you remember that the best prospect out of the 2000 draft was 46th pick Michael Redd, you get a picture of what we might be in for.

This draft does have a couple of interesting returning stars and several intriguing college freshmen -- but it runs out of steam pretty quickly.

We've ranked Kentucky Wildcats recruit Nerlens Noel as the No. 1 prospect in our Top 100 after talking with numerous NBA scouts and executives. Noel is very similar to this year's No. 1 pick Anthony Davis. He is a long, lanky big man who runs the floor, rebounds, blocks shots and plays above the rim. He has to get stronger, but he's a big time talent.

However, none of the scouts we spoke with think that Noel is cut out of the same cloth as Davis as a prospect. He doesn't have the same basketball IQ or motor of Davis, and most scouts believe he's even further behind than Davis was offensively. The one thing he might be better at than Davis? Most scouts say he's an even better shot-blocker.