Everette Brown should have been selected 9th overall ...

[Pantherman]

Well to tell you the truth. Any player can be drafted any round that team are teams think he is worht been drafted at. Brown could well be the next peppers are freeny in next few years depending on the coaching he gets and dependin on defense he plays and if it fits hims. If brown was draftes 7th he could still be one of the best DE in the league. No one never knows where the next big name will come from. Hell no one never thought Tom brady would become a great QB that would win 4 superbowls. Tom brady was picked up in the 7th round. So I want pass judgement on brown for aleast a few years. Who knows brown might come out in the preseason and start killing QBs out there and he might become a starter by the end of the preaseason. Who knows. But if peppers would make up his mind and sign his contract wheather one year are sign a long term. Then put brown as the starter on the other side . Then we might just have another great line up front. But even without peppers. With brown as starter the line would still be rea good.

[carpanfan96]

I think this is right.

If he was the highest rated pass rusher as an NFL DE he would have been taken early in the first most likely.

Most places I saw had him ranked as the second best DE behind Orakpo and not at OLB. His hips weren't considered fluent enough to be a OLB in a 3/4. So to my knowledge all the NFL scouting and draft sites had him as a DE and not an OLB. He was considered the best Pash rushing DE in the draft as well.

That's the reason he fell as he wasn't considered a good option at OLB because of his hips and that teams were iffy on his size at 6-1 1/2 255 at DE as an every down player.

[Chabaca2]

Jarrett was expected to be a late first/early second round pick, whereas Brown was considered to be a top 15-20 pick by most.

Jerrett isnt done yet...if he gets in at #3 WR, and still sucks, then hes a bust

[Woodie]

he was rated in the first as a OLB in a 3-4..to rush the passer..not a DE..

He was rated on his pass rush ability from the DE position, not his projection to OLB. Until he was measured smaller than expected at the combine, most were looking at him as a DE. After the combine, one of the concerns with him was how well he could transition to OLB since he had always played with a hand in the dirt, along with the fact that he never really had to drop into coverage. So pretty much all the positive rankings were based on his ability as a DE, while the ones that had him drop a bit were looking at him as an OLB and used the concerns about his ability to transition there as the reason he was not rated higher.

[Woodie]

Jerrett isnt done yet...if he gets in at #3 WR, and still sucks, then hes a bust

I actually think Jarrett will be a very good WR as long as he keeps working at it like he did last off-season. The thing I liked most is that in his few opportunities last year he showed the ability to make the big catch in important situations while in traffic...and a lot of the throws were not perfectly placed either. So, for me, it's not the quantity of catches he had, but the quality that makes me feel comfortable with him. All he needs now is the get more targets.

Also, he had some very good blocks last year, as well. So I do feel he will be ready and able to step in as Moose's relacement when the time is right.

[SorthNarolina]

omg SEAN SMITH WAS RANKED AT 34 WHY DIDN'T WE TAKE HIM

sean smith - 10 pounds 2 inches + better measurables = sherrod martin

[Delhommey]

Brown is good, but when was the last time an FSU lineman did anything worthwhile on the field?

The Superbowl.

Next question.

[rayzor]

The Superbowl.

Next question.

speaking of which, they aren't going to trade him.

[scpanther22]

He was rated on his pass rush ability from the DE position, not his projection to OLB. Until he was measured smaller than expected at the combine, most were looking at him as a DE. After the combine, one of the concerns with him was how well he could transition to OLB since he had always played with a hand in the dirt, along with the fact that he never really had to drop into coverage. So pretty much all the positive rankings were based on his ability as a DE, while the ones that had him drop a bit were looking at him as an OLB and used the concerns about his ability to transition there as the reason he was not rated higher.

he was rated in the 1st because of his projection to be a OLB..in a 3-4...

[monstercat]

sean smith - 10 pounds 2 inches + better measurables = sherrod martin

Not all the measurables were better for Smith. Both guys were about the same in the 40, but Martin has much better lateral quickness, which is more important than straight line speed, since the opponents WR's aren't gonna run straight go routes every time.

[carpanfan96]

he was rated in the 1st because of his projection to be a OLB..in a 3-4...

That's funny because he didn't project as an OLB because of his hips.

Scout.com projection on him. 2nd best DE and 9th overall prospect.

Cbs sports/ Sports exchange/ NFL scout.com rankings. 3 rated De and 19th overall prospect.

NFL's website had him listed at DE for the draft, His size being 6-1 1/2 instead of 6-4 like he was listed at FL st. hurt his stock a lot. The NFL Site was the only that mentioned him maybe going to a 3 - 4 team and they said it would take a while for the conversion. He was rated as a hand in the dirt pass rusher, because that was his strength.

For those knocking him about his run defense, he has the leg strength to move blockers and play the run well.

[scpanther22]

That's funny because he didn't project as an OLB because of his hips.

Scout.com projection on him. 2nd best DE and 9th overall prospect.

Cbs sports/ Sports exchange/ NFL scout.com rankings. 3 rated De and 19th overall prospect.

NFL's website had him listed at DE for the draft, His size being 6-1 1/2 instead of 6-4 like he was listed at FL st. hurt his stock a lot. The NFL Site was the only that mentioned him maybe going to a 3 - 4 team and they said it would take a while for the conversion. He was rated as a hand in the dirt pass rusher, because that was his strength.

For those knocking him about his run defense, he has the leg strength to move blockers and play the run well.

brown being the 2nd best from scout.com does not say a lot seeing as most say this was not a good class for true 4-3 DE..like a have been saying he was a first round prospect as a OLB in a 3-4..and more than one site and scout has said this..and the knock on brown was strength to move blockers

Brown is a bit undersized but he is fast and athletic, and he is a perfect fit as a rush-linebacker in a 3-4 scheme

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft09/columns/story?columnist=mcshay_todd&id=3700830

[carpanfan96]

Problem with ESPN is almost every small De player gets automatically categorized into the tweener DE/OLB spot.

One of the best pre - draft evaluations on Brown.

GENERAL REPORT: GRADE: 7.18

Body Structure: Brown has a well-built, muscular frame with a tight waist and hips, long arms, thick thighs and room on his frame for additional growth, if he is to stay at defensive end.

Athletic Ability: Brown has the sudden burst and straight-line speed to be an impact edge rusher at the next level, but seems to have hip stiffness, looking sluggish when having to change direction and work down the line (see 20-yard shuttle/three cone times), which could make a move to linebacker difficult, as he will need to drop back in pass coverage often and does not seem to have the ability to do so. He runs easily into the backfield and is quick to accelerate when he sees a chance to get to the quarterback. He is an explosive athlete who has all tools you look for in an edge rusher (excellent speed, sudden burst). He generates an explosive first step and is very active using his hands to defeat the bigger blockers with good cross over action. He lacks fluid hip flexibility and movement coming off the snap, but has good strength and knee bend. He does tend to get a bit high in his stance when on the move. He is effective extending his long arms to keep blockers off his chest. GRADE: 7.5

Football Sense: Brown has a good feel for backfield movement and is quick to react to plays in front of him. He is the type that can take what he has learned from the playbook and use it on the field. He is a smart, instinctive player who does everything the coaches ask and more. He is reliable, works hard in the weight room and is a self-starter. He does get a bit reckless in his play, leading to a few penalties and needs to do a better job of anticipating the snap cadence. GRADE: 6.7

Character: Brown is a class act, both on and off the field. He has no known off-field issues and is heavily involved in a lot of community, school and charity work. GRADE: 7.5

Competitiveness: Brown is a hard-nose player who has this good "seek and destroy" attitude when it comes to attacking the backfield. He is as feisty as he is nasty, taking on blockers who far out-weigh him, but still will not back down from a battle in the trenches. Even though he has just adequate upper body power, he plays with high intensity and his motor is always running. He may be undersized for the defensive end position, but he has learned to compensate with his foot speed and ability to use his long arms to keep blockers off his body. Even when he gets knocked around by the larger blockers, he refuses to give up on the play. His burst to the ball shows the urgency in his play. GRADE: 7.4

Work Habits: Brown is a self-starter and leader by example. He lacks ideal bulk, but shows an array of moves to outsmart the bigger blockers. He needs to improve his upper body strength, but even though he might be a better fit at defensive end than linebacker, due to marginal hip snap and change of direction agility, his frame might be near maximum growth potential. GRADE: 6.8

ATHLETIC REPORT: GRADE: 7.38

Explosion/Pursuit: Brown has sudden quickness off the ball and does a very good job of getting on the edge and keeping advantage. He is sudden coming out of his stance and has a good feel for knowing when to burst. He has above average instincts coming off the snap, having the ability needed to fly past offensive tackles coming off the edge. He shows no hesitation getting to top speed when moving upfield. Even when he gets engulfed by the larger blockers, he will fight hard to escape and has the hand usage to get the offensive tackles up on their heels and off-balanced. GRADE: 8.3

Strength at Point: Brown has good, but not great field strength to consistently split tackle. He shows very good ability to knife through the gaps. He just lacks the body mass and brute upper body strength. He has just adequate hip roll, but plays with leverage when he uses his hands to work the blocker (keeps his arms extended and can squeeze the lane). He struggles to disengage when working in-line, but has the speed to defeat tackles coming off the edge. He plays stout, but when working around the pile he does not have the bulk to prevent the bigger blockers from absorbing him. Even with his strength and long arms, if a blocker gets into his chest, Brown will fail to shed (has good crossover moves, but has to get the blocker up on their heels to be effective). GRADE: 6.1

Use of Hands: Brown has very good natural hand usage, as he constantly keeps working a blocker and because of this, he is able to compete vs. bigger opponents with leverage, combined with his quick feet and hands. His pad level can get high at times, but he has a very good punch and extension to defeat the blocks. He uses his hands well with good placement, but does struggle to shed and escape at times, especially when working in-line. He has very good rip and pull moves and is very active with his hands when attempting to separate vs. the blockers on running plays. GRADE: 8.0

Lateral Pursuit/Effort: Brown has just adequate lateral agility, as he tends to be high in slants and at times gets washed out when a blocker is able to lock on. He has the functional lateral range to avoid blockers, but just seems to struggle when he has to suddenly redirect or drop back in pass coverage (usually taken out on obvious pass plays). He has outstanding closing speed to chase and move through traffic. He plays with very good effort, especially when closing from the back side. GRADE: 5.7

Tackling Ability: Brown is a physical back-side tackler with enough strength to jolt on contact. He shows solid wrap-up tackling technique and drives hard into the ball carrier, rarely softening in his approach. He plays with great intensity and does not want the ballcarrier or quarterback to get away. He has enough agility needed to adjust and finish the play when working in space, but appears to be too stiff in his hips for a possible move to the linebacking unit. GRADE: 7.9

Run Defense: Brown shows strength to hold his ground, but is better working off the edge, as he struggles at times vs. blockers lined up over his head. He plays with good leverage, but will struggle at the point of attack, as he lacks the bulk and lower leg drive to prevent the much bigger blockers from pushing him back. His excellent speed helps him string plays wide and he does play with good leverage. GRADE: 6.3

Pass Rush: Brown comes off the snap with a sudden first step. He shows very good dip and body lean on the edge and has the burst to get by a lethargic blocker in an instant. He is very active using his hands and is constantly running his feet. His spin move is very fluid and he can squeeze through tight areas, but must do a better job of protecting his feet from low blocks. His knee bend allows him to redirect and dip under blocks in his back side pursuit. His best asset is when he comes off the edge to collapse the pocket. His quickness allows him to run past offensive tackles to make the play behind the line of scrimmage. GRADE: 8.8

Closing on the QB: This is where Brown's closing speed comes into play, as he shows a good burst and an array of finishing moves. He does not hesitate in his pursuit of the quarterback (some call him relentless) and he has a great short-area burst to close coming off the edge. His lateral agility is adequate, but he quickly works down the line of scrimmage. The strange thing is his lack of QB pressures, though. GRADE: 7.8

Instincts/Recognition: Brown is an explosive athlete with good tools and skills to be an elite NFL edge rusher. He might be limited playing every down in the NFL due to size limitations, but he has the speed and ball recognition skills that might see him perform much better on the edge than as an outside linebacker. He is quick to locate and track the ball and has the burst needed to quickly reach the play. He is a smart player who won't bite on misdirection or play-action and if he does, he won't make the same mistake twice. GRADE: 7.5

Compares To: JOHN ABRAHAM, Atlanta -- Brown is not as big as Abraham, unless a Florida State coach handles the measurements (school listed him close to three inches taller than he actually is), but both are elite pass rushers in an age where teams put great emphasis on explosive edge rushers wreaking havoc in the backfield. Some compare Brown to Dallas' DeMarcus Ware, but he does not have the fluid hips to drop back in pass coverage, making it a potential unwise move to plant him in the linebacking unit. History says that Florida State defensive ends rarely excel in the pros, but if used in the right system like Indianapolis utilizes with Dwight Freeney and Robert Mathis, Brown could be the one to break the Seminoles' jinx.

[ncbobcat]

The question remains, while his value was obviously there in the second round, is Brown worthty of our next year's first round pick? If so, he should be the next 'Peppers' and I'm not sure he can be that kind of impact player.