Ron Jaworski: Tape says Cam can be a special passer

[rayzor]

sorry...not buying the romo hype. dude is fairly criticized for his lack of leadership by more than just people in here and your average cowboy hating fan.

his own teammates don't know who the leaders are on that team. they don't look at romo as a leader. he doesn't look at himself as a leader. he (and everyone else)looks at himself as someone who should probably step up as a leader at some point, but the problem is that he's had that job for how many years? and he's how old? 31? if he hasn't done it by now, he's not going to do it. he's good, but he's just not good enough to carry that team when it matters, contrary to opinions expressed above. most understand this. that's why they haven't gone further than they have. he just can't handle the pressure of the big game. he doesn't make his supporting cast better. it's been the same story for years and remember it wasn't all that long ago that they sent 13 people to the probowl. that isn't some team of scrubs they've had. you might just look at last year's stats and team, but' i'm looking at the big picture and he's just not as good as advertised. he's good. he could be great, but it's what's between his ears that is and has been holding him and that team back.

[Mage]

he's good, but he's just not good enough to carry that team when it matters,

Already proven false. He's done it plenty of times and his numbers have been outstanding in December.

that's why they haven't gone further than they have.

Yeah, it is Romo's fault they finished 8-8 despite his defense being one of the leagues worst, having an inconsistent running game outside of Murray for only a couple of weeks, a bad offensive line, and injury prone receivers.

Seriously.

remember it wasn't all that long ago that they sent 13 people to the probowl.

It wasn't all that long ago Minnesota sent a bunch of people to the Pro Bowl either. Guess that must mean they are extremely talented, eh?

By the way, that was in 2007. You know, when they finished 13-3 and lost to the Super Bowl Champions (because, you know, losing to the Super Bowl champs = bad thing).

that isn't some team of scrubs they've had.

So are you saying his receivers aren't inconsistent and injury prone? His #1 receiver missed 6 games and was injured for most of the 10 games he even played, Witten is slow and old, and Bryant is not only injury prone but struggles to learn his routes. His offensive line always stinks. But you're really going to sit there and tell me he has a great supporting cast? Come on now.

You know what the issue is? chef17 said it EXACTLY. Maybe you are right. Maybe Romo can't take them further than he has. But guess what? Newton hasn't even done that either so it is all irrelevant. You can't hold it against Romo for not doing something and then not hold it against Newton when he hasn't done it either. Yes, going forward, Newton probably will be the better QB. But right now, what has Cam done that Romo hasn't? I hate arguing against Newton. But Romo deserves more credit than he gets. A lot more.

I understand on a team forum, bias is to be expected. No issue with that. I'm biased at times myself. But I've noticed a lot that people are very unwilling to actually admit Newton has stuff he needs to improve on, which he does (even Steve Smith said that Newton isn't there yet and Newton HIMSELF admits he has a lot to improve upon). At the drop of a dime, people will hold it against Romo for his team not winning yet when said about Newton, it is suddenly a different story. Just those kind of things irritate me. Newton will be a great quarterback, no doubt about it. But right now, I think we need to come back down to earth. There are still some stuff he needs to improve on, primarily consistency.

[chef17]

sorry...not buying the romo hype. dude is fairly criticized for his lack of leadership by more than just people in here and your average cowboy hating fan.

his own teammates don't know who the leaders are on that team. they don't look at romo as a leader. he doesn't look at himself as a leader. he (and everyone else)looks at himself as someone who should probably step up as a leader at some point, but the problem is that he's had that job for how many years? and he's how old? 31? if he hasn't done it by now, he's not going to do it. he's good, but he's just not good enough to carry that team when it matters, contrary to opinions expressed above. most understand this. that's why they haven't gone further than they have. he just can't handle the pressure of the big game. he doesn't make his supporting cast better. it's been the same story for years and remember it wasn't all that long ago that they sent 13 people to the probowl. that isn't some team of scrubs they've had. you might just look at last year's stats and team, but' i'm looking at the big picture and he's just not as good as advertised. he's good. he could be great, but it's what's between his ears that is and has been holding him and that team back.

Criticizing him for his leadership is completely different than saying he sucks as a QB, he can't lead his team to victory, he costs them games, he isn't clutch, etc. His numbers prove all those things false whether you want to acknowledge it or not.

[Herbert The Love Bug]

jawartkis a dork

[rayzor]

i never said he sucked as a QB.

i said he was good but what goes on between his ears keeps him and his team from going further.

keep on defending him, guys. it's really funny. i know it's got to kill you.