Stand Strong Commish

[Razeyfingers]

Sorry to bring it up, but this Bounty case is almost over and if anything can be said I have one small plea. Dont give in, Commish. Dont reduce anything, dont second guess anything. No respect to the rules, the investigation, nor the rulings . . . no reduction in the appeal.

For every prick that has tried to cheat the system at the expense of someone else's health, let them know this is what happens when you get busted in the face. For every rule in this game that was created for the right reason, dont bend on this one, Commish, make it count.

[Cary Kollins]

He won't change the rulings.

[csx]

eh.....rivalries aside it looks like Goodell was over zealous on this one

just my opinion

[pOpCoRnPoPpEr]

^^ same

[Razeyfingers]

eh.....rivalries aside it looks like Goodell was over zealous on this one

just my opinion

not when it comes to doling out for the whole team. I say a few guys took the punch for everyone and not so much, eh too hard on just these guys.

[Argus Plexus]

Obvious troll is obvious. That said, the punishment doled out wasn't hard enough. Should have suspended their entire starting D# and Brees for at least 4 games. Why? Cause I hate them.

[Neylus]

If we are basing this on what has been released to the general public, yeah. The odds are strong that Goodell is protecting his constituency by not releasing the more damning evidence.

[KendrickPanther]

I'm not getting caught up in whether the commish built up a good enough legal case or not. The bottom line is the Saints** were guilty and deserve to be punished. I really don't care if the evidence is concrete. It's like when your parents know you skipped school, they don't need DNA evidence, your ass is grounded.

[TheRed]

When it comes to the Saints*, goodell can not punish them enough.

That's just my opinion. If anyone wants to take pity on that classless team, hey whatever works for you.

[Jackofalltrades]

I thought the punishments fit the crime, my one complaint is that not enough defensive players were suspended, ie Harper.

[pOpCoRnPoPpEr]

Harper knocks people out for free

[Mr. Scot]

I seriously doubt he changes anything.

And no, I don't think he should.

[carolinarolls]

I don't hate what they have been punished for but it honestly could not happen to a better team at a better time for the Panthers. If I really thought they were treated unfairly I would be worried. I would think it could unify them. But this is a clear case of loudmouth noobs to success not knowing how to conduct themselves properly and a whiny leadership worried about public opinion of him and his contract throughout..

No. The aints deserved all this and more just for being the dumb asses they are and thinking they are untouchable. The liklihood is more that the individual parts will splinter into several factions of disgruntled, oppressed, and butt-hurt caricatures of their former selves more so than they will unify. A big head is what got them here and from all accounts they have yet to own up to anything so those heads are likely bigger (and dumber) and nowhere near the humility level they need to be at to unify and rise against.

You can be humble and let a chip on your shoulder fuel you into some pretty awesome things but these guys are showboats and crybabies and carrying a chip is only gonna make it worse for them.

Its about the funniest thing I can imagine to happen to a rival.

[Frizzy350]

Ehhhh... although most of this has been pinned on Gregg Williams, he does deserve most of the blame. Williams installed this bounty system in every team he had been on, I honestly think he should serve jail time. Hell before this whole bounty thing came into the light I really thought he should have been put behind bars, you could tell the guy was promoting this sort of intentional injury behavior.

Now with everyone else, I think Payton just sorta let Gregg do his own thing, didn't put a stop to it as long as it produced. I think the defensive players who got suspended are sort of like Nuremburg trials. Yes they were under orders and slightly brainwashed, but what they did was a "crime against humanity". Theres a point where a good human's instinct will kick in and just not allow them to do certain obscenities.

I'm not entirely sure what the defensive player's cases are against Goodell. Williams, Payton and Vitt all pretty much admitted it happened and accepted their punishment. Tom Benson knew it was going on and fully cooperated with the investigation, he even ordered a cease and desist when they were first caught. The NFLPA that has been fighting for player safety is backing these guys for what reason exactly? Everything these players stood for was entirely against player safety.

At this point I just wish they would accept their punishment like men. You didn't see the patriots throw a hissy fit about their scandal and they soldiered on through it and were still very successful.