Next Xbox and Playstation to Block Used Games

[Wyank]

If all games require online play you have basically destroyed your low income bracket for good. There are families out there that cannot afford internet. Those kids will grow up in a world free from video games.

Can you imagine? The poo I could of got done if I never had video games or the non-productive side of internet. Psh, fug it. The poo that needs done will still be there tomorrow.

[SmootsDaddy89]

They tried this on the PC and it failed miserably. But I guess they figure console gamers are too stupid to care when they get poo on.

[mmmbeans]

They tried this on the PC and it failed miserably. But I guess they figure console gamers are too stupid to care when they get poo on.

Diablo 3 failed?

[Mattiekrome]

Diablo 3 failed?

Its working on it. For something thats been in development for 12 years, it's a steamy pile of poo. Sure it sold however many millions at launch, but that was due to hype and the success of previous Blizzard titles. The online only thing has pissed off a lot of people.

If you want some good reading material, you should check out the Blizzard DIII forums... the folks that post there are relentless.

[mmmbeans]

Its working on it. For something thats been in development for 12 years, it's a steamy pile of poo. Sure it sold however many millions at launch, but that was due to hype and the success of previous Blizzard titles. The online only thing has pissed off a lot of people.

If you want some good reading material, you should check out the Blizzard DIII forums... the folks that post there are relentless.

so it didn't fail... it actually broke sales records...

people will complain about this and then keep buying games... Hell, steam has effectively been doing this for years.

[stankowalski]

looks like the new xbox is just a ps3...

back to pc gaming for me...

My thoughts exactly. Although I've always played games on PC, for the past 10 years or so most of the games I bought were for xbox. Looks like I won't be buying another one.

[Niner National]

Not liking the whole you gotta be connected to the internet to be able to play the game bit. If they are gonna require people to have to be signed in to the internet, to play a single player campaign, they need to give xbox live away free.

Xbox live is free. It only costs money if you want to actually play games with other people, you can connect and download stuff all day with Xbox Live Silver. It only says you need to be connected to the internet., not that you have to have a Xbox Live Gold account.

[Floppin]

If all games require online play you have basically destroyed your low income bracket for good. There are families out there that cannot afford internet. Those kids will grow up in a world free from video games.

Ahh yes, those low income households that can't afford 30 bucks a month for internet yet can afford $500 console systems and 60 dollar price point games.......

[KendrickPanther]

They exist!

[KendrickPanther]

Its working on it. For something thats been in development for 12 years, it's a steamy pile of poo. Sure it sold however many millions at launch, but that was due to hype and the success of previous Blizzard titles. The online only thing has pissed off a lot of people.

If you want some good reading material, you should check out the Blizzard DIII forums... the folks that post there are relentless.

Diablo 3 is one of the best games I've ever bought. There are some issues but the average gamer is just now approaching inferno mode. I don't really form my opinions based on unstable blizz forum posters. You can easily get 70 hour played on one char in Diablo without running into any of the games issues. The online req sucks. There is no way around that but the game itself is fun.

[Mattiekrome]

so it didn't fail... it actually broke sales records...

people will complain about this and then keep buying games... Hell, steam has effectively been doing this for years.

I'm not disputing the fact that it broke sales records, it sold a metric poo ton of copies. Most of which were sold based on the reputation of Blizzard making quality games, plus the huge success of the Diablo franchise in the past. I'd think it would be a small percentage of launch sales that went to folks who never heard of Blizzard or Diablo.

Diablo 3 is one of the best games I've ever bought. There are some issues but the average gamer is just now approaching inferno mode. I don't really form my opinions based on unstable blizz forum posters. You can easily get 70 hour played on one char in Diablo without running into any of the games issues. The online req sucks. There is no way around that but the game itself is fun.

I still play it at least once every couple days, it's not a bad game... I just feel it left a lot to be desired. I was expecting a 10, and ended up getting about a 7. I've yet to hit inferno myself, just now getting into Hell really, currently lvl 51 barb, probably 50 hours or so. Dont get me wrong, the game is fun and it's addicting... It just doesn't live up to the hype IMO. And some of the things that Blizzard has done makes me wonder WTF they are thinking...

Example... Oh no! There's Chinese gold farmers that have automated scripts that go break pots/logs/urns/etc and collect gold to sell. Blizzards answer, F it. We just wont let pots drop anything anymore. Instead of fixing it the right way, they take the lazy way out.

Oh no! Inflation's gone crazy, there's too much gold in the game, what do we do! Blizzards answer, We'll increase item repair to be 7x what it used to be. That way any gold that you do find in game will have to be used to repair your equipment instead of using it to buy new upgraded gear. I agree that something needed to be done, but now my repair bill costs run about the same as the gold I can pick up.

The whole online only thing was supposed be Blizzards big defense against hackers and item/gold duping. Within a few days, they had to shut down the auction house because people were duping gold/items left and right. Just seems that by making a huge move such as requiring a full time active internet connection for the sole purpose of preventing hacking and duping, it would have at least worked somewhat.

Same goes for the wave of account hacks that were being reported a few weeks back, this online only thing was supposed to prevent all this, but some hackers figured out how to session spoof and ended up hacking shitloads of folks.

Plus (not that it affected me, yet) they went and nerfed inferno mode. I was looking forward to playing this unrealistically difficult mode that Blizzard suspected would take at least months, possibly years, for a good gamer to beat. Supposedly, they took a baseline of what the dev team thought was hard, made it 10x harder, and labeled it inferno. Sounds awesome, but now it looks like we'll all get a watered down Inferno.

[C47]

Account hacking is an issue with any computer game that has online play. That said, I have little sympathy for people getting hacked in Blizzard games since their authenticators are....you know.....free. Are there rare circumstances where someone with an authenticator can be hacked? Sure, but most of the hacking happens to people who are too lazy to order, or dl an authenticator....

[Porn Shop Clerk]

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[KendrickPanther]

Blizz really can't prevent the account compromises. If your password has been keylogged it's almost certainly because you have done something wrong like go to a dangerous site. The authenticators will protect you from 99.9% of threats if you use the correct ones.

I agree that the repairs change is lame and they will probably have to change it back. It really hurts people with no gold and has little to no affect on people with millions of gold. The drop increase is already noticeable, you can buy nice gear at a reasonable price now at lvl 60. The pots and barrel change is lame but it doesn't ruin the game, just makes it a little less fun. The problem is something like 8m people are playing Diablo and hackers/gold farmers see an opportunity to profit. There is no way for blizzard to make a watertight game. All they can do is patch the holes as they are opened. The hacking community is intelligent and creative and there's thousands of them. You can go play any Call of Duty multiplayer and there will be some ahole with an aim bot. It stinks, but unavoidable. Some of the changes are annoying and it feels like we are being filtered towards the RMAH but it doesn't break the game.