Predict this year's record!

[pOpCoRnPoPpEr]

With all due respect, were not Tampa, we are a better team than them. In 2010 their wins were inflated, by playing the NFC West and a struggling Panther team that had the worse offense in franchise history. Only good team they beat that year was the Saints** wk 17, they swept a weak NFC West, a 4-12 Bengals, 5-11 Browns, 6-10 Skins.

How is that different from what the Panthers did last season? They beat a handful of piss poor teams and one playoff team who was on their 3rd quaterback. People are saying the Panthers are a playoff team this season. I don't see it, not with their DL and DB's. I think the rest of the NFC South has improved while the Panthers added a......fullback.

[pOpCoRnPoPpEr]

well that explains a lot.

if you would have read his posts about cam this time last year you'd be laughing in his face over his griffin rhetoric like me. don't confuse being a homer for another team with some kind of sage-like perspective on things just because he thinks cam newton sucks. i mean you tore apart his post and he didn't even respond.

there are good "other team" posters here but grits ain't it dude.

I have other things going on.

And i never said Cam sucked. Your eyes are playing tricks.

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

I have other things going on.

And i never said Cam sucked. Your eyes are playing tricks.

i've read a full year of your shitty posts and douchey rhetoric. everyone knows where you stand.

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

How is that different from what the Panthers did last season? They beat a handful of piss poor teams and one playoff team who was on their 3rd quaterback. People are saying the Panthers are a playoff team this season. I don't see it, not with their DL and DB's. I think the rest of the NFC South has improved while the Panthers added a......fullback.

the panthers aren't a playoff team but it's not because they "didn't beat anyone" which was your original premise with the bucs comparison:

I remember people hyping Tampa last season. As i recall i said Tampa beat absolutely no one the season before and it was all smoke and mirrors. Guess i was right, again.

that's an unbelievably shitty argument because any team that ever played a last place schedule and picked up some wins should thus be doomed for failure forever. also it's hardly a bold prediction to say that the bucs are going to be poo because they've sucked with one or two exceptions since 2002.

LONDON67'S BOLD PREDICTIONS FOR 2012:

-the browns will have a losing season

-the dolphins will finish last in the afc east

-detroit misses the playoffs

-a quarterback will attempt a pass

again, the bengals are your AFC super bowl pick yet their 2011 was almost exactly the same as carolina's. beat up on a bunch of shitty teams and lost to the good ones, often in horrible fashion including two games against the team starting "their third quarterback" that apparently sucks because the panthers beat them and as such it shouldn't count.

[Keep Pounding]

How is that different from what the Panthers did last season? They beat a handful of piss poor teams and one playoff team who was on their 3rd quaterback. People are saying the Panthers are a playoff team this season. I don't see it, not with their DL and DB's. I think the rest of the NFC South has improved while the Panthers added a......fullback.

the difference is that I feel we may have loss against playoff caliber teams, but we played them damn close damn near to the end. Also the Bucs didn't have their main guys on DEF on IR, with a new rookie HC after a locked out season, starting a rookie QB. that 10-6 team was Morris second year.

That fullback is a beast and adds to an already very good offense.

The DEF will get better, I have faith in what RR is doing, with a full offseason, and with the key additions we have added, that defense will look nothing like it did last year. Our Dline played better the last 6 games, minus the Saints* game ( they do have a dominate O line),

Only thing Im worried about is the DB position, but with a better pass rush, and hopefully LBers that can actually drop and cover, will help out in the pass DEF ( Beason and Luke), a lot of those big plays that we gave up through the air was on short crossing routes, screens and play action ( that fooled the LBers and SS/FS).

Rivera wasn't able to field a DEF and have them learn the system on such a short offseason, but he has that now.

I know Im all over the place but I'm watching the Finals.

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

the DL was nothing to write home about of course but the linebacker play was atrocious as well more often than not.

i mean how many times did the falcons kill us on the same stretch play that they knew connor couldn't beat them to the edge on? watching that game again there were multiple occasions where turner, mughelli, and snelling ran into a crowd of linebackers and broke free into the secondary. that's not going to be happening with beason and kuechly on the field. like it wasn't even that they were trying to shed blocks and make a play - more like a back ran straight into them and just rolled through.

our safeties are pretty bad but putting even an adequate corner across from gamble would make a big difference in pass D. gamble was easily top five in the entire league per PFF while munnerlyn was literally the second worst CB in the entire league according to the same source.

again i can't sing the praises of this article enough. really sheds some light on things:

http://www.profootba...e-2011-numbers/

[KendrickPanther]

Didn't we jump out to a huge lead vs. the Lions and our D gave up like 40 pts?

[Keep Pounding]

Yeah I was watching Rewind, and some things still bothers me about how our DEF gave up crucial yardage every damn drive.

[KillerKat]

I believe we can achieve 10 wins this season

[panthers55]

Last year we were 1-7 in games decided by 7 or fewer points. With an improved defense just by getting injured people back and with time to actually install the defense you could assume we would have split these games. That would have given us a 9-7 record last year. So the idea that we could win 9 games this year and contend for the division is surely not far fetched even with the schedule. Will we? Too early to say.....

[Mr. Scot]

Better than last year's.

That's as far as I'm willing to go this early in the year.

[mintal]

I always go into the season expecting a perfect season. I know it won't happen, (I'm not stupid) but to not expect them to win somehow spoils the fun of fandom. I'll be happy with a big improvement and reason to look to the future...

[rayzor]

I always go into the season expecting a perfect season. I know it won't happen, (I'm not stupid) but to not expect them to win somehow spoils the fun of fandom. I'll be happy with a big improvement and reason to look to the future...

preach it.

[Argus Plexus]

Playoff berth this season, watch the fu*k out in 2013. Problem, League?