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Griffin vs Newton

Mr. Scot

By Mr. Scot,
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I've come to the conclusion Redskins fans think RG3 is already number 1 in the NFL's top 100, the best QB of all time, and the best athlete of all time, shoot his accuracy is already better then Aaron Rodgers. Skins fans are complete and utter morons.

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That's what 20+ years of hype/fail/hype/fail/hype/fail/hype/fail/etc... will do to you, LOL.

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I've come to the conclusion Redskins fans think RG3 is already number 1 in the NFL's top 100, the best QB of all time, and the best athlete of all time, shoot his accuracy is already better then Aaron Rodgers. Skins fans are complete and utter morons.

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Let them have their buzz. They haven't had a QB just like us for years... no we aren't that dumb to speak like that before he played... but still

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Speaking of potentially Olympic-caliber athletes from Baylor:

David Gettis was a three-time CIF California State Meet champion (2003, 2004, 2005) in the 400 metres for Susan Miller Dorsey High School in Los Angeles. He beat Bryshon Nellum in 2005, while setting what was at the time a high school state record of 45.84 seconds.

I bet you could find similar elite T&F credentials in the background of many NFL players.

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I know this will be ignored but I have to say this.

Griffin is not that good of a runner. That is why Newton, in college, had many more big runs than Griffin had and even in the pros, Newton churned out more big runs. Griffin has excellent straight line speed and sure, if he is in front of you, you probably won't catch him. But change of direction wise? Newton has him beat in that by miles. That is why Newton, who only runs a 4.59 40, is so damn hard to stop. His change of direction is sickening for a man his size. That is why Luck isn't going to do anything on the ground either despite his impressive 40. He isn't agile. He is stiff. I'm not saying Griffin is stiff. But his COD isn't like Newton's or anything close to Vick's. So yeah, maybe he does run a fast 40. But he isn't close to Newton or Vick as runners.

This isn't me dissing on RG3. I like him quite a bit. But he isn't as good of a runner as people make him out to be. He just has straight line speed. But you don't escape the pocket by running in a straight line. That is why some guys who are fast end up not doing anything - their COD stinks. If it was just as simple as running fast in a straight line, Rodgers would be a much better runner than he is but alas. While he is solid on the ground, his COD limits him from being anything like Newton or Vick.

Heck, don't believe me? Peyton Manning ran a 4.8 40. Enough said. He was a statue in the pocket; never a threat on the ground (albeit 4.8 isn't that fast, he still never had any impact running wise and was visibly slow). Change of Direction/Agility is so overlooked by people. Griffin doesn't have the COD Newton has. Newton is a more impressive athlete.

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As for him being an athlete we've never seen before? LOL.

Michael Vick was by far a better athlete. Some people really forget just how athletic he was. Hell, even at his age now, he is still a hell of a lot more athletic than most guys in the NFL right now. Dude was a freak.

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...and while we're at it, the Skins have already had a player who could have easily been an Olympian if that's what he had chosen to do. His name was Darrell Green and he owned T&F in Texas and still holds a few records. He also beat Carl Lewis (9 time Olympic gold medalist) on at least one occasion.

This is the problem with hyperbole, it quickly and conveniently forgets the past.

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