The Mini Camp Thread....(updated Sunday)

[rayzor]

i think the "evidence" is more the QB coach wanting to put his mark on Delhomme more than holding some sort of foolish grudge....

no one said anything about a grudge. why would ther be a grudge.

from what scot and others said, coach wasn't about to let jake get away with not doing the drill right and made him do it over. jake's contract or status with the team or anything else wasn't going to keep him from coaching jake and correcting him.

lots of coaches would have let that slide if the player was an established vet and wasn't fighting for a position.

[AKPantherFan]

no one said anything about a grudge. why would ther be a grudge.

from what scot and others said, coach wasn't about to let jake get away with not doing the drill right and made him do it over. jake's contract or status with the team or anything else wasn't going to keep him from coaching jake and correcting him.

lots of coaches would have let that slide if the player was an established vet and wasn't fighting for a position.

see, i disagree. I think the coach IS DOING what he is suppose to; COACH.

I doubt it has anything to do with delhommes contract

[rayzor]

see, i disagree. I think the coach IS DOING what he is suppose to; COACH.

I doubt it has anything to do with delhommes contract

ugh...

[Squirrel]

see, i disagree. I think the coach IS DOING what he is suppose to; COACH.

I doubt it has anything to do with delhommes contract

You're teh one who brought up grudge, Mr.Scot was saying that Jake was performing up to his new contract like the Coach that he should. Meaning he should be almost perfect.

[KillerKat]

grudge   /grʌdʒ/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [gruhj] Show IPA noun, adjective, verb, grudged, grudg⋅ing.

–noun 1. a feeling of ill will or resentment: to hold a grudge against a former opponent.

–adjective 2. done, arranged, etc., in order to settle a grudge: The middleweight fight was said to be a grudge match.

–verb (used with object) 3. to give or permit with reluctance; submit to unwillingly: The other team grudged us every point we scored.

4. to resent the good fortune of (another); begrudge.

–verb (used without object) 5. Obsolete. to feel dissatisfaction or ill will.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/grudge

Why the hell would a new coach have a grudge against a player he's never met before?

If the new QB coach is on Jake's ass, then good! He should be doing that. Jake needs his ass kicked. And if he still stinks it up afterwards, then bye bye.

[SmootsDaddy89]

Rip scherer hates jake.

[DaveThePanther2008]

Rip scherer hates jake.

And your source?

[scpanther22]

Couple of remaining things left out of earlier posts:

Marty Hurney watched the whole afternoon practice today from the field. When he left, he had a huge grin on his face, the kind I used to hear referred to as a (cake)eating grin. I doubt you could have wiped that grin off with a bottle of 409 and a roll of paper towels. My guess: He likes what he sees.

Ryne Robinson still looks a little iffy receiving, but great after he has the ball.

They’ll need to train Duke Robinson in proper use of his hands at the NFL level. A couple of things he pulled today would have been sure flags (of course, that’s fixable).

On one of the line drills, Everette Brown tried his spin move on Jeff Otah, but Otah used his superior height to keep Brown under control. Chalk that up to experience over exuberance. I’m sure Brown will work on it, though. He truly does go full speed from start to finish. Never saw a dropoff in his intensity. Later on when they were running plays, Brown lined up at left end and did a good job of getting up over Otah trying to knock down a pass. Those two may just sharpen each other the way Gross and Peppers once did.

Ryan Kalil looked good today, particularly strong on a line drill where he controlled Nick Hayden (and I could be wrong, but I think Hayden is bigger than before).

On the line drill where Duke Robinson owned Lonnie Harvey, give credit to Harvey for effort, but Duke had Harvey tied up so bad that DL coach Brian Baker just yelled for them to stop, pulled Harvey aside for a few words and then had him run it again. He did a little better, but I’d still give the win to Duke.

WR Depth is as expected: Smith, Moose, Jarrett, Robinson. Next on the list looks to be Jason Carter and Kenny Moore, followed by Marcus Monk and Kenny McMahan.

Speaking of K Moore, he and Delhomme connected on a really nice looking pass across the middle. I’d definitely love to see us keep him, and if he continues to look like he does now once the pads are on, I’m not sure he could be successfully “stashed” on the practice squad.

New LB coach Richard Smith has a raspy voice reminiscent of John Fox.

And lastly, there actually was a #90 jersey on the field today, although it didn’t belong to a disgruntled defensive end. It was worn by a little boy who was there with his dad.

I probably won’t get to attend tomorrow’s session or Sunday’s, but what I saw today was encouraging.

That said, anyone can look good when there’s no pads and no real hitting. We’ll see what happens down the road when it’s really on.

this is the only thing the worries me about brown..at the next level all those spin moves will not work all the time...he has to get stronger..

[Zod]

Don't pay much attention to talk about individual performances until camp. Players are not actually playing right now. There is no real contact allowed. Until Spartanburg, the entire team is only getting better acquainted with their schemes and techniques. While we can get an overall idea of how the players will be utilized, possibly spot some new formations, we can't even begin to start evaluating individual performances until the pads are on and they are hitting.

[rayzor]

the zod knows.

this mini-camp is the most interesting, to me anyway, than ones we have had in years primarily because there are so many coaching changes and not only is there new ways of doing things and new schemes but new dynamics between players and coaches. it sounds like this bunch is more intense than previous coaches have been...excluding sal, of course.

[CharlotteBeer.com]

the zod knows.

this mini-camp is the most interesting, to me anyway, than ones we have had in years primarily because there are so many coaching changes and not only is there new ways of doing things and new schemes but new dynamics between players and coaches. it sounds like this bunch is more intense than previous coaches have been...excluding sal, of course.

I agree.

The most interesting parts of this offseason as a whole are actually our new coaches and the massive amounts of undrafted rookies we've picked up.

We didn't pursue any big name free agents at all this year (besides Gross and Peppers, of course), but I think that's the mark of a good team. It's what has made Pittsburgh so successful and consistent over the years.

[rayzor]

soooo.....who's going today?

and what do i need to do to be able to go next year?

[nosuchthingasapanther]

this is the only thing the worries me about brown..at the next level all those spin moves will not work all the time...he has to get stronger..

some of the best pass rushers in the nfl only have 2-3 moves.

he was up against otah for christs sakes. brown would have to get angry and turn green in order to have enough strength to muscle past him.

[scpanther22]

some of the best pass rushers in the nfl only have 2-3 moves.

he was up against otah for christs sakes. brown would have to get angry and turn green in order to have enough strength to muscle past him.

yes they have moves but they also have the strength to go with it..its nothing that cant be learned over time but a lot of sacks i saw brown get in highlights was because of spining and moveing...at the next level he will need strength and bull rushing to go along with his spin moves to get past OT