Matt Ryan, Alex Smith, Matt Moore All Better Than Cam Last Year

[Growl]

Actors sure do have a lot of free time.

[SCP]

I'd take Cam over any QB but 3 in the NFL. Dude is gonna win some games here in Carolina.

[CRA]

Crazy how bad Cam's passing really was...wonder what it'd look like if you took out his running

That is why it blows my mind when people claim he shouldn't run. PFF had him as the 2nd best runner in the NFL last year. That is part of his game. Run and kill you deep...Cam isn't going to pull out a scapel and slowly carve people up

Asking him to be something different will result in bad things. He is a big play QB. Bad plays will always come with that.

[La Pantera]

Actors sure do have a lot of free time.

There's a lot of down time between Stanley Steemer commercials.

[Jase]

Profootballfocus.

They grade based on every individual play and whether or not it was successful.

well, no wonder the dinkers and dunkers have inflated ratings.

[DaveThePanther2008]

Someone bored decided to do a chart that made them feel good about Drew Brees or something. Probably Brees agent trying to show New Orlean's front office that Drew Brees is the greatest QB of all time and this happens to prove his point.

Otherwise I think I will go with ROY and what 5 or 6 records as a rookie?

Everyone knows stats are Full of $HIT. You can prove just about anything if you dig hard enough

[CarolinaPanthers8789]

I love Matty Moore but the only guy that thinks Matt Moore is better than Cam Newton is TRD. Hell, not even Dolphin's fans think he is better than Cam.

TRD only likes stats when they are in his favor but when you mention total QBR, yards, (both rushing and passing), touchdowns (both rushing and passing), yards per game (both rushing and passing), and overall ability to take over a game as well as teams having to create a specific game plan to TRY and stop you... well TRD flees because he know's he is in the wrong. Also it's easy for Matt Moore to put up decent stats as a quarterback when the opposing defense's are putting eight and nine guys in the box to stop the run leaving Moore with one on one action on the outside to B. Marshall. It will interesting to see how Moore does (If he wins the job) without a great go to receiver.

This in turn results in TRD trolling the huddle just to try and get some individuals to "come at him" so he can insult them with his "e-bully" style. lol

[panther4life]

PFF is a great tool for their stat tracking. Their grades hardly make sense sometimes and this is a perfect example of that. Cam was Responsible for 14 Rushing TD'S that they did not take into account for this ranking. Nor did the account for the number of fumbles players like Matt Moore had either.

Cam had 35 Total TD'S last year between rushing and passing. That makes him 5th overall in total TD's behind Rodgers,Brees,Stafford and Brady.

He was 10th overall in the leauge in total passing yards.This number is not inflated by his passing attempts either. He was also tied for 10th in yards per passing attempt wiith Vick.

What drug him down in their ratings was omitting his rushing td's, the 36 sacks he took last year(thanks Byron Bell) and his average completion percentage of 60%.Granted he did have the 2nd most attempts of 20 or more yards down the field of any qb in the game which def. dropped his completion percentage.

I got all of those wonderful stats from PFF, the same site Fiz is referencing. Problem is they don't know how to put all those stats together to paint the most accurate picture on their grading scale.

So once again, PFF is awesome for all the amazing stats they track. I pay money for it, but could give a poo less about their grades that don't account for everything.

[panthers55]

If you had your choice, how many folks would take Smith, Ryan or Moore over Newton at this point?? If you aren't TRD, or a Falcon/49er fan, the answer for most sane folks would be a resounding no...... San Francisco and Miami both tried to get Manning which shows you how they feel about their quarterback. Seems Rivera is pretty happy with what he has. That is all that matters. Of those guys only Ryan is in the conversation.

[panther4life]

An unbiased look at last Years best QB'S with everything taken into account would be.

1.Rodgers

2.Brees

3.Brady

4.Eli Manning

5.Stafford

6.Cam

7.Romo

8.Ryan

9.Rivers

10.Rothlisberger

[CarolinaPanthers8789]

If you have Panthers in your username, you are probably bias lol

[panther4life]

Looking back at that list, Stafford threw for over 5k yards(1 of 3 players to do so, 41 touchdowns(1 of 3 players to do so) and only 16 picks. His receivers also dropped more passes(46) than any other QB. So not only is it a travesty they ranked cam behind some of those bums,they really shafted Stafford worse.

[CarolinaPanthers8789]

I'm not saying I don't agree with your top ten, but you know other fans would say there quarterback is better than Cam. It just comes with the territory of being a fan.

[CRA]

PFF is a great tool for their stat tracking. Their grades hardly make sense sometimes and this is a perfect example of that. Cam was Responsible for 14 Rushing TD'S that they did not take into account for this ranking. Nor did the account for the number of fumbles players like Matt Moore had either.

Cam had 35 Total TD'S last year between rushing and passing. That makes him 5th overall in total TD's behind Rodgers,Brees,Stafford and Brady.

He was 10th overall in the leauge in total passing yards.This number is not inflated by his passing attempts either. He was also tied for 10th in yards per passing attempt wiith Vick.

What drug him down in their ratings was omitting his rushing td's, the 36 sacks he took last year(thanks Byron Bell) and his average completion percentage of 60%.Granted he did have the 2nd most attempts of 20 or more yards down the field of any qb in the game which def. dropped his completion percentage.

I got all of those wonderful stats from PFF, the same site Fiz is referencing. Problem is they don't know how to put all those stats together to paint the most accurate picture on their grading scale.

So once again, PFF is awesome for all the amazing stats they track. I pay money for it, but could give a poo less about their grades that don't account for everything.

Well, PFF has its flaws but they did factor in his rushing. Cam had their 2nd highest rushing grade in all the NFL.