Shirley Could Be The Odd Man Out In Dt Battle.

[koolkatluke]

Every Interview I've heard from Marty or Ron when talking about the DT position they mention everybody but Shirley. 1st off let me say I liked Shirley a lot more then Fua, Krease, or McClain.

But Every interview it goes like this when talking about the DT position.

1. "Ron Edwards coming back will help a lot".

2. "The 2 3rd rounders (Fua, McClain) played well for rookies and are improving everyday".

3. They really r-e-a-l-l-y like Krease. They spend atleast 15-20 seconds talking about him.

4. Nebblet has played well in spot duty for us the last 2 years.

I'm very worried by the fact that Shirley is never mentioned.

[csx]

Why would that worry you?

[Panfan35]

Shirley your missing something I just can't put my finger on it...

[koolkatluke]

Why would that worry you?

1st. I like him more then the other's .

2nd He is the biggest DT we have on roster. (6'5 345)

3rd He look better in his 2-3 games then (Fua, McClain) did all season.

[csx]

I guess I'll let Rivera make those kinds of talent evaluations and not get worried about them. He might know a thing or two about what he wants

[koolkatluke]

I hope that Fua has gotten a lot stronger and bigger, or I would consider him to be the odd man out. And I agree with OP, I think that Shirley played better than almost of the other DTs.

Maybe they did nt mention his name, because they already think he will remain on the roster.

I would agree with you but they make it a point to talk about Krease for 25 seconds every interview when talking about the DT's.

[koolkatluke]

I guess I'll let Rivera make those kinds of talent evaluations and not get worried about them. He might know a thing or two about what he wants

WTF does that mean?

Why do people keep bringing up the fact that the coach knows more then us?

I know that. It still doesn't change that we as fans can question moves and what the FO is thinking sometimes.

Why do we even have MB or Forums if what ever Ron or Marty do or say should never be question?

[SCP]

Kearse, Shirley, Edwards, McClain, Nebblit would be the rotation I'd like to see based solely on last year.

[koolkatluke]

Kearse, Shirley, Edwards, McClain, Nebblit would be the rotation I'd like to see based solely on last year.

That's all I'm saying.

Based on last year Shirley should be talked up more then what we are hearing now.

[panthers55]

I like Shirley as well and 2 1/2 sacks in only 4 games of spot duty is better than anyone else by far. I hope he sticks around in camp so he has a chance to impress. If he sticks for awhile then he will get his shot to show folks what he can do. That is all he can ask.

[MHS831]

I think it was Kalil who said that he thought Fua was going to be special. I think we will all be surprised at how much the DT position improved when we have Beason and Kuechly on the field.

As for Shirley getting sacks, they were about his only tackles. But in fairness, we need our DTs to do 3 things: 1. get double teamed, 2.Hold ground when getting double teamed, 3. Collapse the pocket.

There are no stats to measure these things, so I would be very careful about using stats to measure DT play.

[PantherPhann89]

I think it'll be a toss up. I trust that RR will make the call for what best fits our scheme. I do think that Shirley did a very good along with Kearse on shoring up our D-line after McClain and Fua.

[csx]

WTF does that mean?

Why do people keep bringing up the fact that the coach knows more then us?

I know that. It still doesn't change that we as fans can question moves and what the FO is thinking sometimes.

Why do we even have MB or Forums if what ever Ron or Marty do or say should never be question?

It means what it says, what else would it mean and they haven't even made any decisions, they are 4+ months away from making that decision. Maybe they think Shirley sucks....who knows.

I don't know, but the things I have to worry about don't include decisions I don't have any control over.

[koolkatluke]

I think it was Kalil who said that he thought Fua was going to be special. I think we will all be surprised at how much the DT position improved when we have Beason and Kuechly on the field.

As for Shirley getting sacks, they were about his only tackles. But in fairness, we need our DTs to do 3 things: 1. get double teamed, 2.Hold ground when getting double teamed, 3. Collapse the pocket.

There are no stats to measure these things, so I would be very careful about using stats to measure DT play.

Not really going off stats. I'm going by more of what I saw. Fua was 5 yards the wrong way before the play started. Shirley was pushing Olinemen in the backfield most plays he was in.