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Game Of Thrones Grown Up Talk. Do Not Enter Unless You Have Finished All The Books

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teeray Rookie

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He's gonna pull a Robert Jordan and drag this poo out till he croaks. Maybe they will get Sanderson to finish this up too, he did a great job with the mess WoT was in.

Brandon Sanderson is a really good writer. I just read the Mistborn trilogy, and The Way of Kings and both were awesome.

I am not sure he could get the tone of ASOIAF correctly. His books are usually not as dark and gritty as ASOIAF.

Joe Abercrombie or maybe Patrick Rothfuss could possibly do it.

But GRRM is such a unique writer, that I think it would be hard for someone to just step in and finish it up.

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It's Interesting how these guys start these epic fantasy series and hammer out the first few books relatively quickly. Then they start happening fewer and farther between. It's almost like they get attached to the world and characters they've created, and don't want to see it end. I think that is especially true in Jordan's case, maybe not so much or to a lesser degree in GRRM's. The similarities are interesting, even thought the series's couldn't be more different in scope.

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eh, its kind of like a vacation.  the first couple days you're all excited and want to DO ALL THE THINGS! but by the last couple days you're just ready to get home and sleep.

 

i feel like he's burdened by the story he's created.  so much to write, but no motivation to really do so because its not exciting and new anymore.

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Also, I think these guys let the scope get away from them. I was watching a podcast with several good fantasy authors, and they generally have an ending in mind and kinda work backwards. I think sometimes they come up with cool ideas, start wanting to explore new characters they created, then end up with a mess and struggle to get it all back together in a satisfying way. So they get kind of stuck.

They also talked about writing organically which allows the story to come together as they write. I think that too gets them off the main track and they get stuck.

One good thing about Stormlight Archive is that so far it has been about only basically 4 POV characters, so it has kept story tight so far. At some point though Sanderson is going to have to stretch out the world and characters, and that is when I worry that it will get off track.

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GRRM asked about the fears that he will die before he finishes the books...  His response:
 

 

"I find that question pretty offensive, frankly, when people start speculating about my death and my health. So fug you to those people." He accompanied the message with the appropriate hand gesture, and finished off with a laugh

 

http://winteriscoming.net/2014/07/09/george-r-r-martin-strong-message-think-wont-finish-song-ice-fire/

 

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My big picture theory:

 

Anyone find it interesting the woman who actually birthed the dragon riders who conquered Westeros was actually a Velaryon?

 

Aegon the Conquerer's mother was Valaena Velaryon (he wasn't an incest child)...she in fact birthed all 3 dragon riders (him & his sisters)...even his Master of Ships-->>you've got Daemon Velaryon.  

 

So, my crackpot idea is that this new Velaryan mo-fo Aurane Waters is a Blackfyre (as many suspect) of Targ-Vel descent.  

 

Rather than being some self-proclaimed ruler born of incest, he's part of an important lineage that can truly tame and ride the dragons.  Not to mention he has a badass warship fleet.  He's the guy who could actually tie this all together.  

 

----Varys is the guy behind this whole strategy as well.  I mean, Aurane could get on Aegon's side, Dany would probably fall for him, he supported Stannis so is in good terms up north.  The Lannisters are falling apart and the only remaining legit power grabbers in the way are the Tyrells, Manderlys, and Boltons.  HE AIN'T NO PIRATE!

 

I think he is part of the one and only Patchface-prophecies with the seahorse/merman stuff---House Valryon has a Seahorse sigil, they trace back arguably just as much to Old Valyria as the Targaryens not to mention as I said the 3 most famous dragon riders who invaded Westeros were Velaryon-Targaryens, not Targaryen-Targaryens.      

 

My theory: Aurane Waters will defeat the major villain Euron Greyjoy at Sea (Euron kills Victarion), he gets the dragon horn, Aegon/Dany/Jon will ride to defeat the Wights, and Stannis will die a heroic death by ultimately capping Mel somehow after taking care of the Boltons.  

 

Flash-forward....Westeros is more of a republic without an Iron Throne having Rickon Stark and Shireen Baratheon as the couple in charge.        

 

Then out of nowhere--Bran wargs into the Ice Dragon hidden beneath the Wall and takes over the realm.  

 

Booyah! 

 

Ser Barristan remains a badass and alive.

 

The end.  

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My big picture theory:

Anyone find it interesting the woman who actually birthed the dragon riders who conquered Westeros was actually a Velaryon?

Aegon the Conquerer's mother was Valaena Velaryon (he wasn't an incest child)...she in fact birthed all 3 dragon riders (him & his sisters)...even his Master of Ships-->>you've got Daemon Velaryon.

So, my crackpot idea is that this new Velaryan mo-fo Aurane Waters is a Blackfyre (as many suspect) of Targ-Vel descent.

Rather than being some self-proclaimed ruler born of incest, he's part of an important lineage that can truly tame and ride the dragons. Not to mention he has a badass warship fleet. He's the guy who could actually tie this all together.

----Varys is the guy behind this whole strategy as well. I mean, Aurane could get on Aegon's side, Dany would probably fall for him, he supported Stannis so is in good terms up north. The Lannisters are falling apart and the only remaining legit power grabbers in the way are the Tyrells, Manderlys, and Boltons. HE AIN'T NO PIRATE!

I think he is part of the one and only Patchface-prophecieswith the seahorse/merman stuff---House Valryon has a Seahorse sigil, they trace back arguably just as much to Old Valyria as the Targaryens not to mention as I said the 3 most famous dragon riders who invaded Westeros were Velaryon-Targaryens, not Targaryen-Targaryens.

My theory: Aurane Waters will defeat the major villain Euron Greyjoy at Sea (Euron kills Victarion), he gets the dragon horn, Aegon/Dany/Jon will ride to defeat the Wights, and Stannis will die a heroic death by ultimately capping Mel somehow after taking care of the Boltons.

Flash-forward....Westeros is more of a republic without an Iron Throne having Rickon Stark and Shireen Baratheon as the couple in charge.

Then out of nowhere--Bran wargs into the Ice Dragon hidden beneath the Wall and takes over the realm.

Booyah!

Ser Barristan remains a badass and alive

The end.

Tyrion is going to ride the other one

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