Details From Hargrove's Document...

[Chaos]

_{You might want to read the declaration again. Show me where he admits a bounty, admits people paid, admits player names. The NFL spun this our of control and it is no doubt going to come back to haunt them.}

[tiger7_88]

You might want to read the declaration again. Show me where he admits a bounty, admits people paid, admits player names. The NFL spun this our of control and it is no doubt going to come back to haunt them.

So what you are saying is that the Saints* are so stupid they were directing their players to deny something that never existed?

Wow... you're right. That *IS* stupd. :o

[SCP]

You might want to read the declaration again. Show me where he admits a bounty, admits people paid, admits player names. The NFL spun this our of control and it is no doubt going to come back to haunt them.

There is stupid, then there's breezing2anotherasterisk.

[jtnc]

You might want to read the declaration again. Show me where he admits a bounty, admits people paid, admits player names. The NFL spun this our of control and it is no doubt going to come back to haunt them.

[jayflip]

When I get down on myself, I can always count on breezing2anotherSB to cheer me up by inadvertently making me feel better about myself.

The Saints** are like the fat kid who got caught with his hand in the cookie jar, then lied and said there is no cookie jar, then got grounded and blames his parents. Also, he's stil fat.

[Mr. Scot]

way to generalize there

I wasn't looking to be kindhearted there :wacko:

Peruse Saints** Report some time. Good luck finding signs of intelligent life.

Reading all the things they say about how Goodell is going to pay for messing with the Saints*** reminds me of this...

[breezing2anotherSB]

A lot of interesting brainless comments but not one person who gave a good argument to what I said. The NFL and Roger Goodell stated that they had evidence of bounty systems, pay for play, individuals contributing, coaches contributing and that Anthony Hargrove corroborated their story. Show me in Hargrove's statement where he corroborated any of this. If you can't then please refrain from replying with slandering comments that ignore the point and turn into character assassination and just admit that maybe just maybe the NFL went too far with their accusations.

Thanks.

[SuperMan]

A lot of interesting brainless comments but not one person who gave a good argument to what I said. The NFL and Roger Goodell stated that they had evidence of bounty systems, pay for play, individuals contributing, coaches contributing and that Anthony Hargrove corroborated their story. Show me in Hargrove's statement where he corroborated any of this. If you can't then please refrain from replying with slandering comments that ignore the point and turn into character assassination and just admit that maybe just maybe the NFL went too far with their accusations.

Thanks.

Lets see, we don't care what you have to say, or what you believe about your slimebag team, so long story short no reason to debate you seeing as we just don't care :cam:

[CRA]

This is getting real ugly for RG and the NFL. They put out reports that Hargrove admitted that there was a bounty and that he and other players participated when the truth is that he did neither of these things. I can't imagine that Goodell is not going to get taken down by this. Not only that but look at the evidence that Vilma is requesting and it will be very interesting to see if the NFL comes forward with all or any of these request.

Goodell is sitting on a mountain of evidence....waiting for dumbass Saints** to continue to lie and dig DEEPER graves with their lies......which is what the Saints** have done over and over.

Independent Federal judge has called it a slam dunk after reviewing Goodell's mountain of evidence

[SCP]

A lot of interesting brainless comments but not one person who gave a good argument to what I said. The NFL and Roger Goodell stated that they had evidence of bounty systems, pay for play, individuals contributing, coaches contributing and that Anthony Hargrove corroborated their story. Show me in Hargrove's statement where he corroborated any of this. If you can't then please refrain from replying with slandering comments that ignore the point and turn into character assassination and just admit that maybe just maybe the NFL went too far with their accusations.

Thanks.

Hmmmm, nah. How about instead I just say that first, your head coach steals Vicodin. Second, the team and organization is caught in a web of lies that keep snowballing. They thoughtfully included a felon in the betting pool while leaving email trails. F*ck the Saints**. I'm just happy that your organization has been exposed and that for the rest of your saint bandwagon days, every time you bring up the Super Bowl, people will cram this scandal down your pie hole.

[pantherj]

A lot of interesting brainless comments but not one person who gave a good argument to what I said. The NFL and Roger Goodell stated that they had evidence of bounty systems, pay for play, individuals contributing, coaches contributing and that Anthony Hargrove corroborated their story. Show me in Hargrove's statement where he corroborated any of this. If you can't then please refrain from replying with slandering comments that ignore the point and turn into character assassination and just admit that maybe just maybe the NFL went too far with their accusations.

Thanks.

I didn't know you had access to all of the NFL's bounty evidence. Oh you don't?

Tell me why you're willing to believe that the NFL punished certain players and coaches without proper evidence?

How did the NFL decide who to punish, and to what degree, if they didn't have the proper amount of evidence? Did they draw straws to see which player/coach would be punished? Did they pick a random number for how many games they would be suspended? Do you really believe that the NFL lied about having certain evidence? Why would the NFL risk a massive scandle, law suites, and firings, to unjustly punish a few players and coaches? To what end? What was their motivation? Who attacked us on 9/11? The C.I.A?

Ok now here is the real reason why you're inventing these ideas about the NFL falsely accusing and punishing the Saints** players and coaches. You are a Saints** fan, and as such you have attached your ego to the Saints** organization. If there is any bounty evidence that has not yet been presented to the media by the NFL, then you're going to take the position that the evidence simply doesn't exist. The NFL is lying. You believe that nonsense because you're a Saints** fan. Do me a favor. Go to another non-Saints** football forum, and ask the fans there if they believe the NFL is lying about the bounty evidence.

Want to know how you'll react after the NFL releases more evidence proving the guilt of Saints** player/coach X? You're going to say that the Saints** player/coach didn't do anything that players and coaches from other teams were doing. If everybody is guilty, then no one is guilty. This doesn't have an end for you. You will continue to defend guilty players and coaches until this disaster is no longer a topic of discussion.

[breezing2anotherSB]

I am totally convinced that no one on this board can read or they don't want to answer my question or debate my point. I stated specifically

"The NFL and Roger Goodell stated that they had evidence of bounty systems, pay for play, individuals contributing, coaches contributing and that Anthony Hargrove corroborated their story. Show me in Hargrove's statement where he corroborated any of this"

I didn't say that they didn't have the evidence, I didn't say they punished players without evidence or that they were unjustly punishing the Saints*. I said the NFL lied when it implied that Anthony Hargrove corroborated their story. If they lied about that what else have they lied about?????

[Fiz]

If this happened to the Panthers every single person on this board would be falling all over themselves to defend the team with the exact same argument Saints* fans are using.

human beings have an incredible capacity to rationalize things like this.

Not a single person on here talks about the super bowl run being tainted by the whole offensive line doing steroids, for example.

[TheRed]

So we hate the Saints*, boo fuggin hoo. They hate us just as much if not more, fug all of them.