How Would You Feel If You Were Accused, Convicted And Sentenced

[Dpantherman]

All of this outrage that he wasn't called? fug him. He had a chance to clear his name IN FRONT of the fuging commissioner and he refused to interview.

[carolinarolls]

happens every day in every workplace

brown nosers, tattle tales, shoulder steppers. These scabs are not isolated to the NFL.

don't do anything "potentially" stupid unless you are smart enough to not get caught

Players like Vilma do not get suspended for a year unless there is some pretty damning evidence... PA sees to that rest assured. They also see to it that clowns like you and I don't get all the facts. So if you hear nothing, chances are that it is pretty bad. Definitely worse than it would be if they actually released the evidence.

we don't pay shield tax. shield matters are shield sheltered if so desired by shield.

[TruCatzFan]

Get ready for a long long court battle.

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/thehuddle/post/2012/05/ex-saint-players-will-appeal-bounty-suspensions-all-the-way-to-the-supreme-court/1

Won't matter much to us so long as the suspensions are upheld, and the players can't see the field.

Somebody PLEASE point out where Goodell ordered Vilma to be somewhere to meet him, and Vilma flat out refused!!! Did I miss this HUGE story??? Because that within itself is considered insubordination and he should have been suspended for that alone.

Again please provide the link where he refused to see Goodell

[PantherBrew]

I think Goodell is awesome.

[TruCatzFan]

Agree with Carolina rolls, I'd just like to see or hear the actual evidence before I burn them at the stakes. Is that so wrong of me?

[TheRed]

MOAR evidence, goodell must be lying!!!! Aaaaarggghhhh!!!!!!

[Darknight]

Get ready for a long long court battle.

http://content.usato...supreme-court/1

Won't matter much to us so long as the suspensions are upheld, and the players can't see the field.

Somebody PLEASE point out where Goodell ordered Vilma to be somewhere to meet him, and Vilma flat out refused!!! Did I miss this HUGE story??? Because that within itself is considered insubordination and he should have been suspended for that alone.

Again please provide the link where he refused to see Goodell

The answer to your question

Albert Breer ‏ @AlbertBreer

One detail that's important here in NFL statement: League says all players were given a chance to interview with league, and none did.

[breezing2anotherSB]

TCF, as a constitution-fearing American, you should know a private corporation can handle its employees how it chooses. And you can't have a class action lawsuit of one person.

/smfh

Are you out of your mind? A private company cannot publicly slander and make accusations that defame the character of those employees. What country do you live in???

[TruCatzFan]

The answer to your question

Albert Breer ‏ @AlbertBreer

Let's try a link from a legit respectable media outlet. Not a tweet...

[TruCatzFan]

Are you out of your mind? A private company cannot publicly slander and make accusations that defame the character of those employees. What country do you live in???

Thank you, I stopped talking to him because he doesn't get it. He's now on my ignore list.

[Mr. Scot]

Somebody PLEASE point out where Goodell ordered Vilma to be somewhere to meet him, and Vilma flat out refused!!! Did I miss this HUGE story??? Because that within itself is considered insubordination and he should have been suspended for that alone.

Again please provide the link where he refused to see Goodell

It's referenced on the first page of this very thread, specifically post 17 ()

The full statement released by the NFL can be read here (link)

Here's the pertinent info, with an important point in bold:

A number of current and former players, including each player disciplined today, were offered the opportunity to be interviewed with counsel present. One player (Hargrove) submitted a written statement in which he did not dispute the existence of the program, but no player agreed to be interviewed in person.

So they were offered the chance not only to defend themselves, but to do so with their lawyers present, and turned it down. And again, everything was reviewed by a former US Attorney who actually now works for a defense firm (link)

"We also took the step of engaging Mary Jo White, the former United States Attorney for New York, at an early stage of the investigation in order to ensure both the fairness of the process and the reliability of the information on which our decisions were made in the Saints** matter," Goodell wrote. "Following a process that she has frequently undertaken on a wide range of matters in recent years, Mrs. White provided an independent view of the investigation from the perspective of an experienced and highly respected law enforcement officer.

"After her review, she expressed a high degree of confidence in the fairness of the investigation, the reliability of the findings, and the quality of evidence that supported those findings."

That's independent review. She is not a league employee. And as a former US Attorney and a practicing defense lawyer, I'd say she's got pretty good legal qualifications.

In short, the NFL has done an excellent job of covering their bases.

[Darknight]

Let's try a link from a legit respectable media outlet. Not a tweet...

The fug? Seriously?

The man works for and is a reporter for the NFL Network. I think that's legit enough. Adam Schefter is saying the same thing.

[Mr. Scot]

Are you out of your mind? A private company cannot publicly slander and make accusations that defame the character of those employees. What country do you live in???

The one where Anthony Hargrove admitted it was all true, in writing.

So unless you want to try and suggest that Hargrove was the only player involved in the bounty system (which would frankly be a ridiculously ignorant argument) the suggestion that this is "slander" is just plain dumb.

[Darknight]

So the NFL has evidence, Greg Williams (mastermind of it) admitted to running one, Sean Payton said it happen, and now Hargrove said it happen in a written statement.

So is Williams, Payton, and Hargrove lying or is Vilma, Fujita and others lying?

The bitch made punks got what they deserve.