How Would You Feel If You Were Accused, Convicted And Sentenced

[Darth Biscuit]

ESPN has been reporting all day that at least one of the suspended players signed a declaration that he participated in the bounty scheme

THEY HAVE PROOF... GET OVER IT.

[Ivan The Awesome]

fug this thread, I'm going back to Dash's thread.

[Mr. Scot]

Please show me one shred of evidence that the players were given the chance to meet with Goodell to discuss and declined

The league said no player agreed to be interviewed in person, and the players also declined to send someone to argue on their behalf, league sources told Schefter. As one NFL source said, "They took the Fifth Amendment."

Might also want to note this...

The NFL said that "multiple independent sources" said Smith "pledged significant sums to the program pool."

ESPN.com

That's just one article. The evidence is all over the net on multiple sources. You can read it anywhere.

(assuming you know how to read)

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

Millions of people take felony convictions in the US every year without seeing the evidence against them. When you accept a plea arrangement, more often than not the prosecution has not been required to submit their discovery to your attorney, or the court. There is no legal obligation for the prosecution to turn over evidence until you opt for trial.

i wasn't trying to put up the behavior of the legal system as an example of fairness. more to point out that a private organization isn't bound by due process.

i'm no expert but from the way things have played out so far i think the closest thing the league has to "going to trial" is the appeals process.

[4Corners]

please stop making threads and go take a long walk off a short pier.

[pOpCoRnPoPpEr]

_off

[sml1950]

If this happened to me, I'd just quit and get one of those other 7 figure jobs that always available for a player's skill set.

[Brokenbad]

The OP may have the stupidest screen name ever

[Mr. Scot]

There are worse things than being accused, convicted and sentenced like this.

You could be an idiot, or even worse, a Saints fan. Now that would be awful.

(I know that was a tad redundant)

Cue the response "Well, it'd be even worse to be a Panthers fan." Which he'll probably write even though I've predicted it already, just because his brain can't come up with anything else.

[Jesse]

The CEO of a company can do whatever the fug he wants. If an employee is using monetary gain to injure another employee, it's grounds for "whatever the fug I want to do because I'm your boss" on Goodell's behalf.

[fieryprophet]

This is a list of all the f_cks I give about the Saints predicament:

[TruCatzFan]

I'm not in ANY WAY taking up for these guys, so don't twist what im about to say:

If it were say Beason and Charles Johnson, we'd all have a HUGE case of the ass!

Think about it... We only know one side of the story, and that's what the media is throwing out there. To us (especially as rivals) we're believing it all, especially with the way they have played us in the past and with good reason.

I honestly feel bad for Vilma, after reading his statement and finding out that he actually found out by watching ESPN... I think he got a RAW deal. If this were any of our players we'd be in an absolute uproar over this. Just like MANY of the players accross the league have expressed extremely negative feelings as to how this has played out.

There's two sides to every story, and then there's the truth! By evidence that Vilma wasn't even contacted, in my opinion gives him a very good shot at winning a class action suit against the NFL.

I think that Goodell has severely overstepped his bounds on this, and it wil end up being nightmarish for him. Reactions accross the League have been very negative about this.

With all that said FUG the Saints*, but as an American who fights to conserve and protect and defend the constitution of the United States... I'd like to see "due process" and it is obviously void in this situation.

Totally not fair that Goodell is the Judge and Jury in affairs like these.

If he or "they" did it, I'd like to see some proof my damn self before something like this goes down.

Now if the proof is overwhelming and all parties have been consulted, I'm totally fine with it. This however is not the case.

As a Panthers fan, of course I'm happy, but it's bittersweet because imo it's totally unjust.

[Mr. Scot]

Well, its a good thing the NFLPA didn;t sign a contract agreeing to this punishment system then.

Oh wait, they did? :o

[fieryprophet]

I'm not in ANY WAY taking up for these guys, so don't twist what im about to say:

If it were say Beason and Charles Johnson, we'd all have a HUGE case of the ass!

Think about it... We only know one side of the story, and that's what the media is throwing out there. To us (especially as rivals) we're believing it all, especially with the way they have played us in the past and with good reason.

I honestly feel bad for Vilma, after reading his statement and finding out that he actually found out by watching ESPN... I think he got a RAW deal. If this were any of our players we'd be in an absolute uproar over this. Just like MANY of the players accross the league have expressed extremely negative feelings as to how this has played out.

There's two sides to every story, and then there's the truth! By evidence that Vilma wasn't even contacted, in my opinion gives him a very good shot at winning a class action suit against the NFL.

I think that Goodell has severely overstepped his bounds on this, and it wil end up being nightmarish for him. Reactions accross the League have been very negative about this.

With all that said FUG the Saints*, but as an American who fights to conserve and protect and defend the constitution of the United States... I'd like to see "due process" and it is obviously void in this situation.

Totally not fair that Goodell is the Judge and Jury in affairs like these.

If he or "they" did it, I'd like to see some proof my damn self before something like this goes down.

Now if the proof is overwhelming and all parties have been consulted, I'm totally fine with it. This however is not the case.

As a Panthers fan, of course I'm happy, but it's bittersweet because imo it's totally unjust.

TCF, as a constitution-fearing American, you should know a private corporation can handle its employees how it chooses. And you can't have a class action lawsuit of one person.

/smfh