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How Would You Feel If You Were Accused, Convicted And Sentenced

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Jangler Newbie

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And no one spoke to you at all during the process. If this doesn't send shivers down your spine then you are not being honest. Both J. Vilma and W. Smith have publicly stated that

Smith:Through this entire process, the NFL never notified me of what I was being accused of, nor presented me with any evidence or reasoning for this decision. I am interested in discovering who is making these specific and false accusations, and as well as why a decision was made without speaking with me

Viloma:"I am shocked and extremely disappointed by the NFL's decision to suspend me for the 2012 season. Commissioner Roger Goodell has refused to share any of the supposed evidence he claims supports this unprecedented punishment. The reason is clear: I never paid, or intended to pay, $10,000, or any amount of money, to any player for knocking Kurt Warner, Brett Favre or any other player, out of the 2009 divisional playoff game, 2010 NFC Championship Game, or any other game.

Sounds like they didn't want him to know what to lie about.

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MadHatter Rookie

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yeah .. but then you can sue for wrongful termination

No you can't... unless you can prove discrimination.

Most states are right to work states...which means that a company can fire you at ANY time and for ANY reason....unless it violates discrimination laws.

The real world sucks that way, but you had better get used to it.

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that's why u document employees out .. instead of firing them for no reason

No, you do that to cover your ass in a discrimination suit. With the number of protected groups, that is a real concern.

But, outside that, they can fire you for any and even no reason.

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yeah .. but then you can sue for wrongful termination

Only if you can prove it was related to sex, race, religion, etc. It's not wrongful termination if your boss simply doesn't like the color shirt you wore that day or didn't like something (and that can be anything) you did.

These guys are going to have to start by establishing that they have not agreed to the process that the league is following. The league is going to claim this is part of the personal conduct sections of the CBA. If the court agrees with the league, the players agreed to the process so thisgoes through Goodell for the appeal. I'm not sure after that if there is another level of appeal.

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No, you do that to cover your ass in a discrimination suit. With the number of protected groups, that is a real concern.

But, outside that, they can fire you for any and even no reason.

na .. It's for any employee in a - non employment at will state .. if you have employees in more than one state (like nfl) you should comply with the the strictest laws of the strictest state you do business in .. as a rule of thumb

it could be anything .. including discrimination .. but you actually have to incur damages .. otherwise there's no remedy other than an equitable remedy from the court

also .. if you're a contracted employee it doesn't matter if the state is employment at will or not .. courts allow people the freedom to contract around certain items including employment terms

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Only if you can prove it was related to sex, race, religion, etc. It's not wrongful termination if your boss simply doesn't like the color shirt you wore that day or didn't like something (and that can be anything) you did.

These guys are going to have to start by establishing that they have not agreed to the process that the league is following. The league is going to claim this is part of the personal conduct sections of the CBA. If the court agrees with the league, the players agreed to the process so thisgoes through Goodell for the appeal. I'm not sure after that if there is another level of appeal.

not true

but I'm sure you're the one with a law degree?

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Only if you can prove it was related to sex, race, religion, etc. It's not wrongful termination if your boss simply doesn't like the color shirt you wore that day or didn't like something (and that can be anything) you did.

These guys are going to have to start by establishing that they have not agreed to the process that the league is following. The league is going to claim this is part of the personal conduct sections of the CBA. If the court agrees with the league, the players agreed to the process so thisgoes through Goodell for the appeal. I'm not sure after that if there is another level of appeal.

if you suffer damages .. i.e moved somewhere relying on a job .. you could sue and possibly recover .. depends on a lot of different facts relating to the situation .. but it's very much possible

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