Rivera: We Would Have Drafted Coples To Play Dt If Kuechly Wasn't There

[SOJA]

No reason to take an OT when you already have 2 high quality OTs. The FO has said they want to give Otah one more chance to come back from injury. I guess that's where we differ.

Yea I think I have already given up on Otah, anyways good talk Lout. Refreshing when two people can have a decent conversation on the internet without getting at each other's throats

[DawgzLife]

...edit: not to mention his teammate Donte Paige-Moss tore his ACL in the bowl game last December and subsequently went undrafted and, as far as I know, hasn't even been picked up as an UDFA. Though DPM is a headcase,so it's not that surprising.

Your bolded part is the 'main' reason he went undrafted or signed as a UDFA. A highly talented player who has character can over come it, he could not.

[Verge]

Hope you guys like Kuechly or Coples.

[Verge]

So from what I can gather, our Big Board looked like this..

1. Morris Claiborne

2. Mark Barron

3. Luke Kuechly

4. Quentin Coples

I know what their big board was if you really want to know, the top 10 at least.

[mav1234]

orly?

[Marguide]

Thank the heavens for Luke, as I did not want Coples.

As for Otah, I think he lacks the drive to be a success in the NFL.

[Coheed]

I know what their big board was if you really want to know, the top 10 at least.

Do tell.

Just curious.

[Ivan The Awesome]

Oh god, I'm glad that didn't happen.

[Verge]

Do tell.

Just curious.

1. Luke Kuechly

2. Morris Claiborne

3. Justin Blackmon

4. Quinton Coples

5. Matt Kalil

6. Bruce Irvin

7. Michael Brockers

8. Stephon Gilmore

9. Chandler Jones

10. Mark Barron

[nagai]

1. Luke Kuechly

2. Morris Claiborne

3. Justin Blackmon

4. Quinton Coples

5. Matt Kalil

6. Bruce Irvin

7. Michael Brockers

8. Stephon Gilmore

9. Chandler Jones

10. Mark Barron

Well I find it really hard to doubt you after you called Bruce Irvin in the first round :blink:

Why is Cox not on this list?

[Verge]

Well I find it really hard to doubt you after you called Bruce Irvin in the first round :blink:

Why is Cox not on this list?

Bad scheme fit. Last year he would have been fine, but this year and the following years he just would not fit.

[sml1950]

I think we can look for Alexander to move inside to the 3 on 3rd down as a tall pass rusher who can shoot the gap, knock down balls and force the QB to our DEs. Sounds like what they wanted to do with Coples.

[nagai]

Bad scheme fit. Last year he would have been fine, but this year and the following years he just would not fit.

O OK. Can you explain that a little bit more? How does he not fit our scheme?

[Verge]

O OK. Can you explain that a little bit more? How does he not fit our scheme?

He is to compact and not lengthy, also he was short and really only had the job of penetrating the line as opposed to total run stuffer. We wanted someone taller with more length and more consistent in stuffing the run and in general doing it all. Fletcher Cox was fine in my book even though I admit he was not the best at stuffing people at the line, I thought penetration was fine for that. Surprisingly enough, they thought Coples would be the better DT.

Last year he would have been a perfect fit as we were more of an Eagles type D penetration in the insides but inability to stop the run with inside linemen, but now we are moving away from it, and if I am looking at things correctly possibly moving to a 3-4...and Cox would straight up just not fit in a 3-4. (He would play DE in a 3-4 but it is not a good fit.)