Panthers Working To Get A Pick In The 3Rd Round

[CarolinaPanthers8789]

Won't happen. Jenkins is prob off our board entirely.

For what it's worth, Peter King said we were one of the five teams interested in him in the second.

[SOJA]

For what it's worth, Peter King said we were one of the five teams interested in him in the second.

and the cowboys were one of those five.....they are now out of that race for multiple reasons

[LinvilleGorge]

Translation: Marty Hurney is doing his damnedest to do something incredibly fuging stupid.

[Snake]

Every GM misses on some picks in the draft, and you have to live with that. While the Panthers whiffed on DeWayne Jarrett, they also got Ryan Kalil in that 2nd Round by trading back so you can't so it was that bad several years down the road.

But when you trade up and miss, it really hurts in building your team. That's why I think Armant Edwards and Everrette Brown are the 2 worst moves by Hurney.

Gave up a lot for both #33 and #15 respectively for guys that never made impact and one is gone and the other almost certainly will be come this August

Hurney has had some down right awful years though and without a impact player in the 2nd this year just might go down as one as well.

This just seems to be shaping up like the 2005 draft did.

[jtnc]

Hurney is such a gambler, wouldn't surprise me at all.

[Kevin Greene]

Our 3rd this year is already on the roster, Olsen. Do NOT trade next years 2nd to reach into this years 3rd Hurney!

[CheeseCP]

To be working on moving up to the 3rd already they must really like the way the Board is falling to them... gotta be a good sign... right?!

[Snake]

Hurney is such a gambler, wouldn't surprise me at all.

Yea but he gambles at dumb poo like the AE deal yet plays it safe when gambling makes since.

[Mr. Scot]

Been said many times. Hurney loves to trade.

Shouldn't shock anybody.

[R0CKnR0LLA]

from the other thread...

Draft Trade Value Chart

http://www.draftcoun...Value-Chart.php

a mid 3rd rounder is worth around $170-$210

our picks

4th round (104 overall) = $86

5th round (143 overall) = $34.5

6th round (180 overall) = $19.4

7th round (216 overall) = $5

so at least by the trade value chart all of our remaining picks wouldn't equal a mid 3rd. even if some team would take that (which I think would be very possible) I doubt we want to give up all of our remaining picks (other than the 6th round compensatory that we can't trade) just for that one. that move would leave us far too short on overall picks.

if we don't net a 3rd with a trade down in the 2nd the only thing left is to trade future picks.

[Seltzer]

Every draft over the next 10 years hopefully is going to look better than in year's past because we have a franchise guy in Cam Newton. Mickey Loomis, Ted Thompson, and Bill Polian have had some awful picks but Drew Brees, Aaron Rodgers, and Peyton Manning are fantastic deodorant...

The Panthers were generally successful during the Delhomme era because they built a good team around him, not the other way around. Peyton Manning played with some absolute scrubs in Indy and still did well. Think about it.

The Saints have been successful b/c of Brees, more so than surrounding him with great players for the most part. Outside of Jimmy Graham, Darren Sproles, and Jabari Greer, I don't know if any of their other players could have a big impact on a lot of other teams.

The Falcons have surrounded Matt Ryan with a good team, albeit one that can't win clutch games. Matt Ryan certainly is not Drew Brees, and that's why the Falcons are pushing so hard to win now. When Gonzales, Abraham, etc. retire, the Falcons will look like the post 2005 Panthers with Delhomme. Now Ryan is still young and they can rebuild, but they don't have the ability to be dominant in the long-haul with Matt Ryan. Honest assessment.

I think Josh Freeman could lie somewhere in the middle. I think he has a much bigger upside than Ryan, and they're not going to be an easy out this year. Freeman was surrounded by a team last year that talent wise was on par with the 2010 Panthers. This year will be a much better indicator I think if his long-term success.

Newton, however, has the ability to be an elite QB long term. Different than Brees, maybe never be the pinpoint passer Brees is, but could far surpass him in sheer athletic ability as a runner and still could be a top 5 passer.

So, bottom line is, Hurney will still miss some and we will still complain about how is the worst GM, etc. But a bad draft with a franchise QB will look like a lot more like a successful draft without a franchise QB

[L-TownCat]

Since cleveland is openly shopping colt Mccoy, why could'nt we be doing the same with Clausen? with Clausen and a sixth round pick we should easily be able to get a third out of that from somebody who had a high grade on Jimmy when he was drafted.

[megadeth078]

Won't happen. Jenkins is prob off our board entirely.

no

[Ivan The Awesome]

Aw fug, I have a feeling Hurney is going to give away next years second...