Connor Vs. Kuechly

[megadeth078]

wow .. did you even read what I wrote? please read this VERY slowly

I didn't say that LB wouldn't be a position of need (you still reading and comprehending?)

I'm saying .. there would have been OTHER positions that we could have used the pick on @ #9 .. that we needed MUCH MUCH more than LB if we had re-signed Connor

LB would have been a need .. but not nearly as much as others (if we would have re-signed Connor)

not sure how to write this any clearer

Connor is worthless. Want proof? Tweet Rivera.

Rivera does not want holes at the LB position. Of all the positions on that side of the ball, Rivera decided he couldn't ignore the LB position. There's really nothing more I can tell you, bro.

[x djdrew x]

Connor isn't nearly the caliber of player that Kuechly is and never dreamed of having the versatility that he has. Connor was a one-trick pony, and he did well filling in but Kuechly was drafted to play immediately in any and all spots at linebacker and at first glance, is a huge upgrade as far as coverage goes. Connor was a run-stopping ILB. Kuechly is a run stopping machine paired with a unique ability to also be able to cover TEs, which routinely rape us over the middle.

This is a clear, sizable upgrade by any measurable.

[xtheronx]

You can look at it as players coming out of college then. Luke compares more to Beason coming out than Connor. But Luke coming out vs Beason coming out is an easy comparison....Luke looks better.

Connor comparison is lazy. You didn't seem to have issues comparing him to NFL players until he was compared to someone good.

haha nice try .. but I didn't even compare Kuechly to Connor in my OP .. I was simply stating we could have used our pick on another position of need if we had re-signed Connor

LB would have been an area of need as well (even with Connor) .. but not nearly as bad as other positions

[Razeyfingers]

Something that I think some are missing here is that, the type of players on the roster and on the field help determine your scheme. If anything the OP needs to understand, its that when you plug a guy like Kuec . . er hmm Im gonna call him Gooch. . .when you plug the Gooch in for Conner it allows you to do more creative things with other players and other packages since you KNOW this guy is gonna do what you brought him in for.

For example, you can attack the QB more since Gooch is gonna cover player X. . . or you can attack this lane since you know the Gooch is lock down any runners on these lanes.

The Gooch is going to allow our former linebacking Coach to attack more unpredicatably.

[GamecockSmitty4]

Here's my dilemma .. if Connor was an above average player .. and was familiar with our system .. and has proven he can play at this level .. why spend more/same on an unproven player?

We could have re-signed Connor and used our first pick on a CB, DT, WR, etc.

Maybe I'm naive .. but I just don't understand how teams let good players go in free agency and then replace them with someone who might be better. Especially with the 9th pick in the draft!!

You're right. We also should not have let Matt Moore (good player) go in free agency and then replace him with someone (Cam) who might be better. Especially with the 1st pick in the draft!!

[xtheronx]

Connor is worthless. Want proof? Tweet Rivera.

Rivera does not want holes at the LB position. Of all the positions on that side of the ball, Rivera decided he couldn't ignore the LB position. There's really nothing more I can tell you, bro.

well .. I guess since you don't have the answer [/thread]

[megadeth078]

well .. I guess since you don't have the answer [/thread]

Rivera values the LB position more than the others, and he doesn't want to go into next season with holes.

There's your answer. We got Kuechly. Get over it.

[xtheronx]

You're right. We also should not have let Matt Moore (good player) go in free agency and then replace him with someone (Cam) who might be better. Especially with the 1st pick in the draft!!

way to go .. compare a QB .. to a LB lol (I knew someone would do this)

If LB's played as big of role as QB's in wins .. then I could see the comparison .. otherwise your post is irrelevant in this discussion

[Peppers90 NC]

Yeah I agree with all of this for sure ... but we would have been fine at LB with Connor is my point

Then we would have had the bonus of using the #9 pick on another position of need.

How would we be fine with Connor when he can only play a handful of games each season? Do you keep forgetting this? It would be like depending on Thomas Davis to play a whole season this year - ain't happening.

[xtheronx]

Rivera values the LB position more than the others, and he doesn't want to go into next season with holes.

There's your answer. We got Kuechly. Get over it.

Rivera values the LB position more than the others, and he doesn't want to go into next season with holes.

There's your answer. We got Kuechly. Get over it.

nothing to get over here

all I did was post a topic in a discussion board for .. wait for it .. wait for it

DISCUSSION

lol .. just wanting to discuss the FO's thought process in their selection

[MadHatter]

na .. that's not what I think .. but thanks for the insight into my own brain lol

Let me say this again .. we would have been fine at LB with Connor .. then we could have used our pick on a much more dire need

I'm not saying they're the same player .. or that we would have had the best LB group in the NFL .. I'm saying it would have been a way for us to strengthen OTHER positions that sucked last year worse

Passing stud BPA to reach for lesser players based on need is a losing draft strategy.

That is all

[GamecockSmitty4]

way to go .. compare a QB .. to a LB lol (I knew someone would do this)

If LB's played as big of role as QB's in wins .. then I could see the comparison .. otherwise your post is irrelevant in this discussion

Way to go. Compare a white LB... to another white LB lol (I knew someone would do this)

[xtheronx]

Passing stud BPA to reach for lesser players based on need is a losing draft strategy.

That is all

I never said reach for a player .. I was discussing the thought process of the FO

I'm sure we could have traded back .. being that approx 10 trades took place after our pick!

[Pox 08]

Why did we draft Cam last year? We had Clausen on the roster. We were set with Clausen, and should have gotten another position of need.