Kuechly On Sports Science Espn

[CRA]

The argument has never been his speed,vision,or tackling ability. Its his rushing the passer.

Nope. Just what you focus on. Part of the reason Rivera could not run his aggressive scheme is there was no one to play defense if he attacked. He had a weak front 7. Luke would make it stronger....let Rivera attack. Doesn't mean Luke would be the attack

[CRA]

Especially after we just gave him a new contract. Its not happening, Beason as well. Dont know why that is so hard to comprehend.

Talent is talent. Godfrey has a nice contract as well......doesn't mean he isn't replaceable. Anderson is nothing special. JAG....Godfrey is barely that

[Snake]

so if coples and cox are gone, what elite DL are we talking about taking instead of Kuechly?

I would take CB. I understand the concern for LB but its a need that can be addressed in later rounds.

[panthers55]

False. Jimmy Graham will burn and has burned any LBer in the league. Lets hear more about how he will keep Graham in front of him and tackle 12 yards down the field though. See other Koochy thread for more details.

Graham runs in the 4.55 range. Kuechly runs in the 4.59 range. Sounds like a great footrace to me.

You mad........

[Ken]

I'm not hating on it. I find it very enjoyable. But people are being ridiculous if they put too much stock in it. Their numbers are unrealistic and flawed.

Does Kuechly hitting as hard as 3280lbs of force sound remotely realistic to you?

I'm a huge Luke fan by the way. Not bashing him. But perspective needs to be used for this. SS is a great interesting thing ESPN has but nobody should put too much stock into it.

I agree with you. I just don't like people brushing it by saying "X could do that"

[Snake]

Nope. Just what you focus on. Part of the reason Rivera could not run his aggressive scheme is there was no one to play defense if he attacked. He had a weak front 7. Luke would make it stronger....let Rivera attack. Doesn't mean Luke would be the attack

Yep no reason to focus on a part of a game that is critical to our system. Makes total since to draft a two down LB at 9.

[Snake]

Talent is talent. Godfrey has a nice contract as well......doesn't mean he isn't replaceable. Anderson is nothing special. JAG....Godfrey is barely that

Smh

[panthers55]

Beason also likes Poe...

Maybe he knows something some off the detractors don't. After doesn't Beason see talent and ability in the locker room every day. He might know what it looks like and what it takes to succeed.

[Sloth]

Graham runs in the 4.55 range. Kuechly runs in the 4.59 range. Sounds like a great footrace to me.

You mad........

Graham is over 6'6", can jump and has 35 inch arms. He ran a 4.53 at the combine.

To break that down, Graham is faster, taller, has longer arms and has a better vert than Kuechly. Better 3 cone as well. Seeing as combine numbers are such an important part of Kuechly's appeal, he's got nothing on Graham, and even if we were to waste our #9 on an outside linebacker, we would still have no one on roster able to reliably cover Graham, much less shut him down.

You try to keep him in front of you or try to pressure and/or hit Brees before he can find him.

[panthers55]

The argument has never been his speed,vision,or tackling ability. Its his rushing the passer.

Exactly ignore everything and concentrate on a part of the game that is easily taught and heavily dependent on scheme. Glad you finally figured out how stupid that argument is.

[DaCityKats]

no lb can cover Jimmy.some people forget who was guarding him during the 49er game,the same guy some of you are comparing Luke too.not bashing just saying.

and no defense for the perfect pass either,his qb knows he can throw the ball up and he will go get it.

[Snake]

Exactly ignore everything and concentrate on a part of the game that is easily taught and heavily dependent on scheme. Glad you finally figured out how stupid that argument is.

Smh pass rushing is a ability not something that can be easily taught and our scheme is heavily dependent on LBs that can blitz. Its why we need a Jack LB more than a ILB.

[panthers55]

Graham is over 6'6", can jump and has 35 inch arms. He ran a 4.53 at the combine.

To break that down, Graham is faster, taller, has longer arms and has a better vert than Kuechly. Better 3 cone as well. Seeing as combine numbers are such an important part of Kuechly's appeal, he's got nothing on Graham, and even if we were to waste our #9 on an outside linebacker, we would still have no one on roster able to reliably cover Graham, much less shut him down.

You try to keep him in front of you or try to pressure and/or hit Brees before he can find him.

Kuechly is 6'3" runs just as fast and has just as high a vertical leap (within half an inch). And if we are trying to run around cones then Graham is 2 one hundreds of a second faster. Funny but I never saw any cones on the field, have you???? Other than the 3 inches in height, they are identical. And don't tell me height is everything because cornerbacks routinely and successfully cover guys 3 inches taller.

We need to be able to cover in the middle of the field and lets be honest that wasn't Beason's strong suit before the injury. Kuechly brings the best chance to finally get the tight end monkey off our backs and shore up the pass defense. When you add that to all the rest he brings, it is no brainer. Just ask Beason who should know.

[panthers55]

Smh pass rushing is a ability not something that can be easily taught and our scheme is heavily dependent on LBs that can blitz. Its why we need a Jack LB more than a ILB.

First off we are not talking pass rush we are talking blitzing and that is almost all scheme and surprise. So no we don't need a Jack Linebacker who is going to put his hand in the dirt we need a 4-3linebacker who will blitz. But thank you for playing....