Yasinkas Has Us Taking Kuechly

[Kurb]

Lavonte David in round 2 > Koochie in round 1

[Catalyst]

I like Kuechly, but if they want someone who can start day 1 it's a bad pick. Not because he can't start right away - he can - but because if he is starting it means either Davis, Beason, or both haven't recovered from their injuries. You shouldn't plan on losing a key player in order to have your top draft pick play.

I agree we need depth at linebacker, but we can find that in the later rounds and in what's left of free agency. Beason will be back; no doubt about that in my mind. Davis is a toss up, but let's say he does return and stays healthy... what then? Do we cut him so Kuechly can play? Do we cut Anderson? I mean, at some point you have to realize that we're a 4-3 team and taking Kuechly essentially tells me the coaching staff is either expecting, wanting, or both for Davis to fail.

[Panthro]

Lavonte David in round 2 > Koochie in round 1

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[jarhead]

I can totally understand if people want Cox over Kuechly. I'll be pumped on draft day if we get Cox, but this hate for Kuechly makes no flippin' sense to me. The fact remains that we have two big question marks for our starting LB corp and no depth behind them. How can anyone be so opposed to picking a potential playmaker in that department? And for those who talk about him being a late tackler after the ballcarrier is 5 yards past the LOS, have you even watched his tape?? Because that idea is COMPLETE BS. Hell, I had Cox as number one on my wishlist, but after reading the stupid posts on here, I kinda want Kuechly more, JUST so I can see how y'all respond when he starts pooping on NFL talent.

Haters gonna hate, I guess...

With Connors gone and all the injuries I think you can make just as much of an argument for Luke...same with Barron at safety.I think the key in taking a devalued position is these guys must be multi year pro-bowl caliber players.The same argument could be used for T Richardson going in the top 5.My defensive board (BPA)is Claborne, Luke and Barron in that order.,I think all 3 will be top caliber pro bowl players in the future and will make an immediate impact.If Cox is as good as Darius which I have no way of knowing he may be the 4th on my board but seriously I do not see the major difference in him and Worthy who is projected 10 spots lower.I say take a pro bowler with our first pick.On offense I see Luck,RG3 Richardson and Kalil as future pro bowlers. Its all a matter of how you look at it.

[PantherBrew]

You need speed to blitz. However, the scheme IS more omportanr. If the QB identifies the blittzer, we will have the OL compensate for Jim 9 out of 10 times. It is all about disguises and keeping him guessing. This is a big reason the Panthers have sucked at blitzing under Fox....everyone in the stadium saw where the blitz was coming from.

The exception to this is when you send everyone and overpower the OL. You don't do this too often as it leaves you VERY exposed if you don't get there...very risky.

I an not segueing for or against Kuechly. Just that many of the arguments against him are invalid.

I personally would rather take a lb in the 2nd or 4th rounds. But I would not be upset if we take him at 9 because he is a hell of a football player and would help this team.

Something about me really wants Coples.

I think this is exactly how I feel.

If we are getting Urlacher 2.0, then he is worth it. If we get, Paul Poslusney, then its obvy not worth it.

I won't be super excited about him, but I won't freak out.

If we do draft him, I think it is definitely shows the concerns of guarding Jimmy Graham.

If we could get him at 15 then it would be awesome, but at 9 I am a little meh.

[panthers55]

I like Kuechly, but if they want someone who can start day 1 it's a bad pick. Not because he can't start right away - he can - but because if he is starting it means either Davis, Beason, or both haven't recovered from their injuries. You shouldn't plan on losing a key player in order to have your top draft pick play.

I agree we need depth at linebacker, but we can find that in the later rounds and in what's left of free agency. Beason will be back; no doubt about that in my mind. Davis is a toss up, but let's say he does return and stays healthy... what then? Do we cut him so Kuechly can play? Do we cut Anderson? I mean, at some point you have to realize that we're a 4-3 team and taking Kuechly essentially tells me the coaching staff is either expecting, wanting, or both for Davis to fail.

If both guys were likely to be 100% then I would agree you don't draft high as a contingency. But when the reality is that you will be replacing one or the other and that both are dealing with major injuries, only a fool avoids planning for the inevitable. If we draft Kuechly this year he will start at some point this season. To think otherwise is just putting your head in the sand. Those of us advocating for Kuechly have come to that realization while those who don't want him have to wait until it happens.

But as I said numerous times I doubt we take him.. We will go for a pass rusher and when the inevitable hits, Hurney will scramble around trying to fix the problem. We have this history of not planning for contingencies.............

[CRA]

hate to break it to you but an elite QB's biggest enemy (or any QB, for that matter) is pressure, pressure, pressure

fixing the DL is the first step to improving our ability to pressure the QB

Again, pressure in the JJ43 is generated by the front 7..... It isn't dependent on a front 4 like a Tampa 2 D. Adding talent to the front 7 is a good thing. Will let Riveta run his scheme.....not about one player.

[CRA]

just a consensus guys

if i post a Patrick Willis Mississippi highlight video (because stats in the pros are off limits lol) how do you think it will match up against that compilation of dogpile tackles P55 posted?

Luke made more plays in the backfield than Willis in college. So yeah....what are you suggesting?

[PantherBrew]

Again, pressure in the JJ43 is generated by the front 7..... It isn't dependent on a front 4 like a Tampa 2 D. Adding talent to the front 7 is a good thing. Will let Riveta run his scheme.....not about one player.

Yeah, this puts me at ease more than anything.

Rivera knows Defense, in and out. He has forgotten more about Defense, then the combined Defensive knowledge of the huddle.

He knows where we need help, more specifically, he knows if we need top flight linebacker help.

If he believes we need Kuecs then we probably need Kuecs.

[Actionman0z]

We will see in two days. :)

[CRA]

Yeah, this puts me at ease more than anything.

Rivera knows Defense, in and out. He has forgotten more about Defense, then the combined Defensive knowledge of the huddle.

He knows where we need help, more specifically, he knows if we need top flight linebacker help.

If he believes we need Kuecs then we probably need Kuecs.

Yep. Having enough talent to run the scheme is important. Not just about can Luke blitz.....is Luke good enough to allow others to blitz as well? People overlook that. Rivera abandon his scheme last year bc there was no talent to defend if he attacked

[MadHatter]

I think this is exactly how I feel.

If we are getting Urlacher 2.0, then he is worth it. If we get, Paul Poslusney, then its obvy not worth it.

I won't be super excited about him, but I won't freak out.

If we do draft him, I think it is definitely shows the concerns of guarding Jimmy Graham.

If we could get him at 15 then it would be awesome, but at 9 I am a little meh.

Also it may show how the staff feels about our two injured guys coming back strong. They are closer to that situation and have muchmore informaiton than any of us do.

[MadHatter]

We will see in two days. :)

Damn good post.

[carolinarolls]

I love draft fights... as if anyone here actually has anywhere near the amount of information necessary to make and back up a decision in comparison to what the draft war rooms have.

You call it passion. I call it insanity,