Of These 4 Draft Prospects Who Is Your Favorite?

[koolkatluke]

read what I posted further up the page. Let me know what you don't understand it. I mistaken thought I was pretty clear.

I read your post already.

But maybe you don't get this so let me explain this to you.

As soon as you Draft Coples the written is on the wall for Hardy (who I really like). He is not sticking around to be a part time player. As soon as he hits FA another team will ****** him up quick. Not just us but other teams see him as a starter.

If you Draft Cox McClain can still develop. McClain is already in a competition for his Job adding another player won't effect him. Even if we don't draft Cox McClain might not start. McClain isn't seen as a starter yet. He could work his way to start with Cox when Edwards is gone.

Plain and simple If you put Hardy and McClain in FA who gets ****** up 1st?

[Panther59]

1. Cox

2. Gilmore

3. Floyd

[koolkatluke]

I hope Gettis is recovering well and makes big strides in this offense, but we don't know for sure.

Lafell doesn't have long speed. He's got quickness, burst off the line, and toughness, but he can't break away. If you need evidence of that go back and watch the bomb he caught from Cam for like a 60-70 yard touchdown. If Smitty didn't sprint down the field to block the defender, Lafell was going to get caught from behind. He is a nice possession receiver and will make some plays for us as a solid #2 or #3 receiver over the course of his career, but he won't ever be a #1. There's nothing wrong with that, it's just not who he is. But we have to have a true #1 receiver for when Smitty leaves. I don't see that guy on the roster right now.

Gettis might prove me wrong, but he's got a lot of work to do.

You might not Know this But Floyd doesn't have Break away speed either.

http://www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/profile_display.cfm?prospect_id=2749

Michael Floyd could have entered the 2011 NFL Draft, but decided to return to the Fighting Irish. With great height, hands, and size, he has the potential to be a very good possession receiver in the NFL.

A very reliable receiver who can work defenses anywhere on the field. He is very good at the point of attack and displays a great knack at beating press coverage. Whether it is using his hands to disengage or simply shielding defenders away from the ball, Floyd can separate from his man in short spaces. Gifted with long arms and the ability to climb the ladder, he can make plays on deep balls. He is not blessed with elite speed, but can adequately challenge corners down the field.

Durability and character concerns may end up hurting his draft stock. He was arrested for a DUI in 2010 and was charged with underage drinking the year before. Notre Dame opted to suspend him during their summer practices.

At the next level, he projects as an above average No. 2 receiver. He lacks the necessary explosion off the line and suddenness in his route running to be a true top-flight receiver. He will need to get stronger in his lower body since he is an average blocker, at best. Given his size and frame, the potential is there for a very good NFL career.

[Guest Bwood]

I think our front office is really high on Floyd. If he makes it to our pick, I wouldn't be surprised if they wanted to bring him in to be the future #1.

The thought of Cam to Floyd makes me drool.

I absolutely love Gettis and LaFell, don't get me wrong. But I think that if we were to add Floyd he could contribute immediately, and when Smith retires in a couple seasons he can be the #1 guy and LaFell can play across with Gettis in the slot.

[XClown1986]

mmmk the site you just quoted has no idea who Michael Floyd is. He is the elite blocking WR in this draft. He is hardly average. And his deep ball skills are what make him attractive in the top 10.

[XClown1986]

You might not Know this But Floyd doesn't have Break away speed either.

http://www.fftoolbox...rospect_id=2749

Michael Floyd could have entered the 2011 NFL Draft, but decided to return to the Fighting Irish. With great height, hands, and size, he has the potential to be a very good possession receiver in the NFL.

A very reliable receiver who can work defenses anywhere on the field. He is very good at the point of attack and displays a great knack at beating press coverage. Whether it is using his hands to disengage or simply shielding defenders away from the ball, Floyd can separate from his man in short spaces. Gifted with long arms and the ability to climb the ladder, he can make plays on deep balls. He is not blessed with elite speed, but can adequately challenge corners down the field.

Durability and character concerns may end up hurting his draft stock. He was arrested for a DUI in 2010 and was charged with underage drinking the year before. Notre Dame opted to suspend him during their summer practices.

At the next level, he projects as an above average No. 2 receiver. He lacks the necessary explosion off the line and suddenness in his route running to be a true top-flight receiver. He will need to get stronger in his lower body since he is an average blocker, at best. Given his size and frame, the potential is there for a very good NFL career.

mmk that site has no idea about Michael Floyd. He is the elite blocking WR prospect in this draft. Hardly average. And the reason teams are leaning towards Floyd over Blackmon is because Floyd has been more proven to gain separation from defenders. You need another source.

[panthers55]

I read your post already.

But maybe you don't get this so let me explain this to you.

As soon as you Draft Coples the written is on the wall for Hardy (who I really like). He is not sticking around to be a part time player. As soon as he hits FA another team will ****** him up quick. Not just us but other teams see him as a starter.

If you Draft Cox McClain can still develop. McClain is already in a competition for his Job adding another player won't effect him. Even if we don't draft Cox McClain might not start. McClain isn't seen as a starter yet. He could work his way to start with Cox when Edwards is gone.

Plain and simple If you put Hardy and McClain in FA who gets ****** up 1st?

I don't think bringing in Coples spells the end for Hardy. I think you need 3 of 4 very good pass rushers if you are using a Giants type model. Who knows maybe bringing elite competition will put a fire under him. Isn't that what competition is supposed to do. But if Coples is the next Peppers then of course you bring him in and find reps for Hardy.

If you bring in Cox and he starts every game how does that develop McClain?? And McClain was an almost 2nd rounder not a 6th rounder. But the difference for me is what kind of depth do we have at DT and DE. I think you and a few other Cox sniffers are the only ones who really think our depth at DE is any close to what it is at DT.

[koolkatluke]

I don't think bringing in Coples spells the end for Hardy. I think you need 3 of 4 very good pass rushers if you are using a Giants type model. Who knows maybe bringing elite competition will put a fire under him. Isn't that what competition is supposed to do. But if Coples is the next Peppers then of course you bring him in and find reps for Hardy.

If you bring in Cox and he starts every game how does that develop McClain?? And McClain was an almost 2nd rounder not a 6th rounder. But the difference for me is what kind of depth do we have at DT and DE. I think you and a few other Cox sniffers really think our depth at DE is any close to what it is at DE.

And Osi is always bitching about playing time and being a starter.

Hardy will want to be a starter and get paid like one. Don't fool yourself.

[pantherclaw]

I read your post already.

But maybe you don't get this so let me explain this to you.

As soon as you Draft Coples the written is on the wall for Hardy (who I really like). He is not sticking around to be a part time player. As soon as he hits FA another team will ****** him up quick. Not just us but other teams see him as a starter.

If you Draft Cox McClain can still develop. McClain is already in a competition for his Job adding another player won't effect him. Even if we don't draft Cox McClain might not start. McClain isn't seen as a starter yet. He could work his way to start with Cox when Edwards is gone.

Plain and simple If you put Hardy and McClain in FA who gets ****** up 1st?

I like Hardy, but he's had more than one chance. He regressed last season. While I expect him to improve this coming season, we need more talent at the position. If Hardy is worth keeping, he'll step up and earn it. As it should be done.

[XClown1986]

I don't think bringing in Coples spells the end for Hardy. I think you need 3 of 4 very good pass rushers if you are using a Giants type model. Who knows maybe bringing elite competition will put a fire under him. Isn't that what competition is supposed to do. But if Coples is the next Peppers then of course you bring him in and find reps for Hardy.

If you bring in Cox and he starts every game how does that develop McClain?? And McClain was an almost 2nd rounder not a 6th rounder. But the difference for me is what kind of depth do we have at DT and DE. I think you and a few other Cox sniffers really think our depth at DE is any close to what it is at DE.

Correct. Our best defensive line incorporated Al Wallace along with Peppers and Ruckers on passing downs, just like the Giants use Tuck, Umenyiora, and Pierre-Paul. 3 good pass rushing DEs is important for rotational value.

[XClown1986]

And Osi is always bitching about playing time and being a starter.

Hardy will want to be a starter and get paid like one. Don't fool yourself.

And Osi has had to shut his mouth and play some ball. Don't fool yourself, Hardy doesn't run this team. He'll do what he is told.

[koolkatluke]

mmmk the site you just quoted has no idea who Michael Floyd is. He is the elite blocking WR in this draft. He is hardly average. And his deep ball skills are what make him attractive in the top 10.

How about this one

http://sidelinescouting.com/rankings/2012/wr/michael-floyd/

Has had some fumbling issues in the past, carries the ball too far away from his body after he catches it... Not very explosive, is more of a slow-twitch athlete... May carry too much weight for his frame, lacks some flexibility and big play ability... Will be more of a possession receiver at the next level, had only three receptions over the past two years that went for over 35 yards...

[pantherclaw]

Hardy isn't good enougb to get top de money. He hasn't done anything.to earn it.

[koolkatluke]

And Osi has had to shut his mouth and play some ball. Don't fool yourself, Hardy doesn't run this team. He'll do what he is told.

I'm Not saying he does but he's younger and will get a lot of offers on the open market.