Josh Norris Not A Fan Of Luke Kuechly

[CRA]

Pretty much anyone who is knowledgeable and is not a fan of a player is. Dude is BPA by a long shot if he is there.

Someone claiming Cox is BPA over Luke by a longshot....isnt very knowledgeable on the issue.

Simple and plain. Luke is a more complete football player than Cox right now. Cox by a longshot??? No need to go full retard.

[DaCityKats]

on tablet but Gil Brandt said something interesting about taking LBs in the top 10 over the last 10 years.its located in Peter King MMQB.

Stat of the Week

This from the mind of the great Gil Brandt:

Amazing the bust factor at linebacker in the last 10 years. Brandt tipped me onto this, and he's absolutely right: Look at the top 10 picks in the draft from 2001 to 2010. Six have been linebackers (if you count Terrell Suggs as a defensive end). The six are A.J. Hawk, Ernie Sims, Keith Rivers, Jerod Mayo, Aaron Curry and Rolando McClain. One of the six has made a Pro Bowl -- Mayo -- and he's made just one. Rivers was traded to the Giants for a pittance of a fifth-round pick on Friday. Curry was dealt from Seattle to the Raiders for a seventh-rounder last year. The Eagles gave up a fifth-round pick for Sims in 2010; he's an unsigned free agent now. Hawk and McClain have been pedestrian at best in Green Bay and Oakland, respectively.

One Pro Bowl linebacker picked in a decade in the top 10 of the draft. Contrast that to defensive linemen: Twenty-six were picked in the top 10 of the draft from 2001 to 2010 -- obviously counting Suggs as a defensive end -- and those 26 have made 29 Pro Bowls.

Read more: http://sportsillustr...l#ixzz1sJLaXtCF

something for guys to take into consideration.

[mmmbeans]

but but but safest pick in the draft!

something for guys to take into consideration.

it's a bit disenginuous to not include willis as the 11th pick... but the point remains.

[Snake]

Someone claiming Cox is BPA over Luke by a longshot....isnt very knowledgeable on the issue.

Simple and plain. Luke is a more complete football player than Cox right now. Cox by a longshot??? No need to go full retard.

Dude just admit your a fan boy and get over it. Cox is way more talented than Kuechly by a far margin. He plays two spots and is very polished pass rusher and at stopping the run. While Kuechly is a good tackler he does not have the pass rush skills needed to even be considered BPA in the top 15. Im sure you will come back with a derp derp derp not uh your stupid response because I told you the truth about your boy.

[jtnc]

Kuechly seems like a coverage version of Dan Connor.

[CRA]

Dude just admit your a fan boy and get over it. Cox is way more talented than Kuechly by a far margin. He plays two spots and is very polished pass rusher and at stopping the run. While Kuechly is a good tackler he does not have the pass rush skills needed to even be considered BPA in the top 15. Im sure you will come back with a derp derp derp not uh your stupid response because I told you the truth about your boy.

If I was a fanboy I would want Luke as the pick regardless. I don't.

Acknowledging Luke could be BPA on D at 9 basedon a draft unfolding is reality...... Why you feel the need to argue that is just silly

[DaCityKats]

James Anderson wont be taken off the field for Luke.

Luke will come in when Thomas Davis goes down, and the positions will probably be switched around a little bit, if need be, to make sure that Beason, Kuechly and Anderson are on the field, at the positions that work the best.

Probably Beason at MLB, Luke at WLB and Anderson at SLB.

Luke will also be one of the MLBs when rivera lines them up occationally in the 3/4

If somehow Davis can stay healthy, then yes, Anderson may be taken off the field, but I think that with Rivera, if we have a fantastic LB squad, we will see more of the 3/4., especially on passing downs.

why would we line up in a 3-4 on passing downs? 3-4 teams dont even do that.

[unicar15]

Jon Beason drafted 25th by the Carolina Panthers

Which is where Keuchly should go...If you had asked the majority of people before the draft, Beason wasn't considered a perennial pro-bowl caliber player. It's great for us that he became that but that is the territory Keuchly is in right now and so that's where he should be drafted.

[DaCityKats]

depends on the opposing offense.

Also depends on if we want to cover, or blitz.

passing situations you are more than likely in a nickel or dime package.

[CRA]

Which is where Keuchly should go...If you had asked the majority of people before the draft, Beason wasn't considered a perennial pro-bowl caliber player. It's great for us that he became that but that is the territory Keuchly is in right now and so that's where he should be drafted.

Luke was better in college than Beason. Luke's draft class also doesn't have a lot of elite talent after the top 5.

What are you basing he should go at 25 off of? He was a better LB in college, has the measureables, and the first round talent is weaker than back then...

[PantherFan52]

Guy is overrated and its clear the NFL knows this. There are people hugging this guys nuts but its clear he is going to be drafted in the lower part of the 1st.

He declined the invitation you mongoloid.

[panthers55]

something for guys to take into consideration.

I read that. A couple of things. Willis isn't included because he went at 11 and Von Miller wasn't included because he is too recent. And you have Dan Morgan who was drafted at 11 as well. So that top 10 is all good and well but even that gives you an N of 6. If you expand it to top 11 and include Willis, Von Miller and Morgan all of sudden you have 9 guys who have been to 8 probowls and that list will only expand as well. Now compare that to the defensive line and you get a very similar comparison. All of a sudden taking a linebacker in the top 11 is no worse than taking a d linemen. Funny how stats can be misleading can't they????

[beastson]

Which is where Keuchly should go...If you had asked the majority of people before the draft, Beason wasn't considered a perennial pro-bowl caliber player. It's great for us that he became that but that is the territory Keuchly is in right now and so that's where he should be drafted.

I dont get this though. So if he goes at the 20's and do what Beast did, wouldn't that be a fail on our part? If the guy can play and you need him, why not draft him assuming all those thats "clearly" BPA is gone

[CRA]

I read that. A couple of things. Willis isn't included because he went at 11 and Von Miller wasn't included because he is too recent. And you have Dan Morgan who was drafted at 11 as well. So that top 10 is all good and well but even that gives you an N of 6. If you expand it to top 11 and include Willis and Morgan all of sudden you have 9 guys who have been to 8 probowls and that list will only expand as well. Now compare that to the defensive line and you get a very similar comparison. All of a sudden taking a linebacker in the top 11 is no worse than taking a d linemen. Funny how stats can be misleading can't they????

Yep. Top 12 tells a different story.... and there

is no difference between 9 and 11 really.