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Josh Norris Not A Fan Of Luke Kuechly

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If you don't know who he is he does a lot of scouting for Rotoworld.

Josh Norris ‏ @JoshNorris

Kuechly lacks special qualities other than consistency. But, that consistency is solid tackling 3 yards past LOS & good (not great) in cvg

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Still think Kuechly fits best in a 43 WLB role. Less blockers straight up, consistent in coverage. Best in downhill. No way top 15 impact

I agree with him and have been saying this since day one. The guy will get 100+ tackles but will not be a much better player than James Anderson. If you need a guy to just track down ball carriers he's just fine. But, if you want more of a impact making plays behind the los and sacks I would much rather try to get Zac Brown in the second round.

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Bottom line is you can argue almost anyone in the 6 -10 draft area isn't good enough for the spot.....big drop off.

I still he compares to a Beason coming out. Beason didnt have that wow factor. Still doesn't in the NFL. Solid players who go 100% never get the hype.

But it is unfair to judge a guy and claiming he can't do something just bc he wasn't asked to heavily in college. Have to look at why he wasnt asked to

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If you don't know who he is he does a lot of scouting for Rotoworld.

Josh Norris ‏ @JoshNorris

Kuechly lacks special qualities other than consistency. But, that consistency is solid tackling 3 yards past LOS & good (not great) in cvg

Josh Norris ‏ @JoshNorris

Still think Kuechly fits best in a 43 WLB role. Less blockers straight up, consistent in coverage. Best in downhill. No way top 15 impact

I agree with him and have been saying this since day one. The guy will get 100+ tackles but will not be a much better player than James Anderson. If you need a guy to just track down ball carriers he's just fine. But, if you want more of a impact making plays behind the los and sacks I would much rather try to get Zac Brown in the second round.

My problem with Zac Brown and the reason he has fell in the draft is his game tape. He looks like he avoids contact. He doesn't take on blockers he runs around them. Which will make your stock drop. He still has a lot of raw talent thoe.

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Bottom line is you can argue almost anyone in the 6 -10 draft area isn't good enough for the spot.....big drop off.

I still he compares to a Beason coming out. Beason didnt have that wow factor. Still doesn't in the NFL. Solid players who go 100% never get the hype.

But it is unfair to judge a guy and claiming he can't do something just bc he wasn't asked to heavily in college. Have to look at why he wasnt asked to

Like the Cam Newton criticism regarding the offense he ran at Auburn.

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Meh... every draft there are guys who slip who aren't considered to possess elite ability by some who end up flourishing in the NFL. At the same time, every draft there are guys who get overdrafted due to measurables who just aren't that good at actually playing football. That's usually the make up of draft "steals" and "busts".

To be a high draft pick, you usually need both production and great measurables. Kuechly has both and he'll be taken in the top 15.

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Bottom line is you can argue almost anyone in the 6 -10 draft area isn't good enough for the spot.....big drop off.

I still he compares to a Beason coming out. Beason didnt have that wow factor. Still doesn't in the NFL. Solid players who go 100% never get the hype.

But it is unfair to judge a guy and claiming he can't do something just bc he wasn't asked to heavily in college. Have to look at why he wasnt asked to

I agree with your first statement...

Second part not so much, Beason wows me.....

I think of this guy like Paul Posluszny, solid player with some playmaking ability in coverage and blitzing. Not great at those things, but definitely an impact player. However, Poz was picked up with the first pick of the second round (which was surprising he fell that far). I don't think Luke is worth a top ten, he is however worth a first round draft pick.

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I agree with your first statement...

Second part not so much, Beason wows me.....

I think of this guy like Paul Posluszny, solid player with some playmaking ability in coverage and blitzing. Not great at those things, but definitely an impact player. However, Poz was picked up with the first pick of the second round (which was surprising he fell that far). I don't think Luke is worth a top ten, he is however worth a first round draft pick.

Beason wows you bc be is a solid all around player who goes 100%. Those guys generally don't get lots of hype outside of the teams the play for. They also aren't as common in the NFL IMO as many think.

What was different about Beason coming out vs. Luke?

Also, hard to look at another draft and say a comparable guy went at X and therefore this guy should as well. All the other talent that dictates where guys go is being omitted

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Yea but if the NFL does not think you will be drafted early(first 15) they dont invite you.

That's not really true anymore. I mean they have that TE from Stanford going, along with Randall Reubon (who? exactly...). I remember a few players were invited last time that didn't go for a while.

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