What if JP just wanted the 17 million?

[thunderraiden]

if he wanted the 17 mil he would have signed the tender

before the draft?

Your also forgetting signing Bonus. If he wanted money he would agree to a contract because his signing bonus would be alot of money atleast 20 million.

i guess ur right i dont know how that signing bonus works, i never got the point of the cap if u can just give someone shitloads of signing bonus.

[MadHatter]

before the draft?

If all he really wanted was the $17M this year....yes, he would have signed it the day it was tendered.

[panthersphan]

next season wont be uncapped.

you can count on that

Weren't you the one who started a thread saying that the Panthers won't draft a quarterback this year b/c of next year's "Uncapped season and more talented QBs in the draft"?

[Fiz]

before the draft?

he doesn't get paid until he jots down his herbie hancock

[bleys]

What if Peppers really was superman?

Just curious...

[thunderraiden]

there would be reports of a black man in red and blue jump suit with a big ass red cape flying around.

[Butterflyj30]

But if he signs the tender then can't the panthers pick where they want to trade him to??

[Squirrel]

But if he signs the tender then can't the panthers pick where they want to trade him to??

Yes but no team would do that for one year, They would want a longterm contract and Peppers would have to agree to that.

[OneBadassCat]

I don't think Peppers see's much advantage in leaving now. We are committed to him, no other team offered what we would want for him. The most amount of money he could make is with us. We brought in some guys to help him out on the line, we've got a new coordinator and a new scheme, he's got some buddies with Thomas Davis and Beason. There is potential to move him around in this defense now, there is more incentive for him to stay than to leave.

[mantal]

Can I have the 17 million? I'll sign, where do you want me to sign?...

Peppers played his hand and lost. It's time to step up and sign / play. Or sit out and get nothing, just end it, game over, done...

[Butterflyj30]

I agree he should just sign a long term contract here!!

[raleigh-panther]

5. Will Peppers now be in play?

The most forgotten man in the 2009 offseason has been defensive end Julius Peppers.

No one has shown a serious interest in trading for -- or paying -- the man who likely fancies himself as more valuable than Albert Haynesworth (who received $40 million guaranteed) and Matthew Stafford (who received $41.7 million guaranteed).

Now that the draft has come and gone, the price in trade has, as a practical matter, dropped significantly. If a team signs Peppers, the team's franchise player, to an offer sheet and the Panthers choose not to match it, Carolina would get a first-round pick in 2010 and another one in 2011.

For a team with a front office and/or coaching staff feeling the heat to win now, they essentially can have their first-round pick and trade it, too.

Really, why worry about a draft pick to be used in April 2010 if there's a good chance that house will be cleaned in January?

[thunderraiden]

Looks like he just wanted that 17 mill.

I know Jaxon wants to wash his hands of Julius Peppers, as do many of us, however I believe closure is also important and to get that I think we need to know what could have been.

Sitting in on Mark Packer's 'Primetime with the Paclman' show on WFNZ Rock Hill Herald and Charlotte Observer beat writer Darin Gantt revealed a lot of interesting information regarding the team's mindset this off season, potential trades and moves. Most interestingly however was the revelation of just how much money Carl Carey and Julius Peppers left on the table by deciding not to sign an extension, therefore clearing his path to free agency.

Gantt had it on good authority that the Panthers' final offer to Peppers was $13-14 million per season. He didn't mention a term, but looking at players of a similar age and position it's most likely this deal would have been for 5 years. So, supposing that the offer was for 5 years and right at $13.5 million per, this is how it would have stacked up among DEs.

Jared Allen: 6 years, $73.26 million ($12.21 million per)

Will Smith: 6 years, $61.4 million ($10.2 million per)

Dwight Freeney: 6 years, $72 million ($12 million per)

Julius Peppers: 5 years, $67.5 million ($13.5 million per)

This would have made Peppers the highest paid DE in the NFL, but a far cry from the deal he reportedly wanted as being the highest paid defensive player in the NFL. Now media outlets are saying he could only fetch up to $10 million per season from a new team.

Gantt was asked if New England could be a likely landing spot for Peppers. He responded saying that the only thing stopping it would be money. He said that from this beginning it has only been about money with Julius. He doesn't give hometown discounts, he doesn't give championship potential discounts; that being said, he did say the Boston area would be appealing as he would sit behind at least three Patriots (presumably Brady, Moss and Welker) the entire Red Sox team and three Celtics on the fame level in Boston allowing him to disappear somewhat.

He went one to essentially say that there was no way the Panthers could have gotten anything in return for Peppers without taking a considerable risk. It would have required franchise tagging Peppers and being on the hook for $21.3 million then hoping to find a trade partner. It was a poison pill most teams couldn't swallow and made it near impossible to move him. I completely agree with Gantt, it gave Peppers the power to hold a gun to the Panthers' heads. He could have happily signed the tender and not accepted any trades forcing the team to shell out $21.3 million for essentially nothing.

Gantt also talked about Jerry Richardson's mindset during this period and said that Richardson strikes him as the kind of guy who's willing to sacrifice the short term success of the Panthers for the long time goals of the NFL. Take that as you may, but it indicates to me that we wont see a lot of action in free agency.

Finally he was asked about possibly trading DeAngelo Williams to San Diego for the 28th pick in the draft (rumored on several sites). Gantt said that he believes Jonathan Stewart is the better running back, but he thought it would take a lot more than just the 28th pick for Marty Hurney to break up Double Trouble; but he wouldn't rule it out entirely.

Sorry for the thread necro, but i told u guys so!