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Tim Mcgarigle


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Mod love is specifically forbidden somewhere in Leviticus but we all do it anyway because it feels so damn right.

I mean, ew.

Damn....I am now going to need years of intense therapy to get the mental image of you two locked in a loving embrace out of my head. Just what I needed on a Friday morning. :wacko:

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Tim McGarirgle blew him away in tackles you simply cannot compare the two. It's obvious you know nothing about football or you would be a GM in the NFL. If you wanted a safe pick in 2002 that also had a lot of tackles it was Tim Mcarirgle.

Did anyone say that at the time?? No

Did anyone say he was a first rounder?? No

You went a long way to prove that there are guys with good production and poor measurables that don't make it in the NFL.

What does that have to do with Kuechly????

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All that means is that Luke may be on the fast track to the same place.

Not even close unless he is projected as a seventh rounder, has poor measurables and significant issues. THis is what they said about Mcgarigle coming out of college.

Positives: Has a very well-defined, solid frame, with good chest depth, broad shoulders, powerful arms and hands, good bubble and thick lower body frame … Has the lateral range and quickness to neutralize the outside running game … Aggressive tackler, but is also disciplined, as he does not get too reckless and over-pursue … Reads and reacts quickly to play development and has the ability to control gaps and avoid blocks … Best when tackling in tight quarters, as he does not have the timed speed to cover much ground working in space … Can stay tight on the tight ends and backs in the short area and takes good angles closing on the ball … Gets decent depth in his pass drops … With his instincts, he seems to always be in good position to make the play … Good wrap tackler who can generate good pop on contact.

Negatives: Uses his hands well to tackle, but needs to be more active with them playing off blocks, as he does struggle to shed … Bit undersized and is conscious of this, preferring to avoid blockers on the move rather than engage and get engulfed … Has good timing to close on plays in front of him, but lacks top speed to make plays all over the field … Can flip his hips to take good angles closing, but for some reason his hips get a little stiff in his backpedal … Mirrors tight ends and backs, but needs to use his hands more effectively in attempts to reroute … Can run through and clog rush lanes, but runs around too much trying to avoid contact … Has shorter than ideal arms (28 7/8), which causes problems when trying to shed.

McGarigle is an aggressive, instinctive player with a good feel for play development. He is relentless in his pursuit and can close on the ball playing along the line, but struggles to stay after the backs when having to play in space. He shows good gap control to fill the rush lanes, but must remain more active with his hands, as he is slow to shed.

McGarigle has a good short area burst and the lateral movement to slip blocks and make tackles in the backfield. However, he is a better blitzer on the inside than coming off the edge, as he just does not get enough of a push off the offensive tackles to have success attacking from the outside.

He has the lateral flow to spring running plays out and stays low in his pads, bringing his arms while staying square to explode behind his hits. He can cover tight ends in the short passing game, doing a nice job of opening his hips and taking the angle to close, but he is more of a short zone player as he does not see the quarterback as well playing deep in the zone.

McGarigle will never be confused for a pass thief, as he does not have the natural hands or extension agility to reach and secure the ball in flight. He rarely gets caught out of position, though, and while he does not have the lower body strength to stack and control, he has become an adequate blitzer who can apply pocket pressure.

McGarigle has to do a better job of protecting himself from cut blocks and is better when the opposition runs plays right at him rather than to his side. He might be better suited for a 3-4 alignment in which he can be protected better, as he doesn't have the speed and acceleration to give chase working the corners, or the sand in his pants to stack and control or split double teams.

Still, he plays with a high motor, is a relentless tackler and is very productive. Unlike most inside linebackers who pile up assisted tackles, McGarigle is the one who initiates contact, producing 319 solo stops among his 545 career tackles. He reminds me a lot of the Colts' Gary Brackett -- a player who compensates for a lack of ideal athletic ability, size and strength with a high motor, great feel for play development and a take no prisoners approach to delivering the tackle.

BTW: And if you are going to use a Kuechly analysis please use one after the combine. He has some athletic concerns until he blew the combine away. If he had run a 4.73 40 as some thought he might, he wouldn't have been placed so high in the draft or considered a top 15 pick.

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The OP (original post) was a classic to begin with...definitely a legendary performance. But references to the Bible, nursery rhymes and 1960-70s soul hits makes it hall of fame material.

I have just been trying to figure out how to manipulate Darth Vader into it.

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You have people on here suggesting that he is akin to Beason and Urlacher. I am surprised that they haven't invoked Sam Mills. Both sides of the equation are probably way over the top. Both sides. But that's what people are failing to realize. In my estimation it is pure lunacy to think that this kid is the next best thing to Mike Singletary. Let's see him up against some top level competition before we crown his ass, either way.

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Poster 1: if we are at 9 and Blackmon, Claiborne, Coples, etc don't fall....and Carolina opts to draft BPA on D Luke looks to be a better choice than a DT

Poster 2: I disagree with your above claim Luke is the next Lawerence Taylor.

That is pretty much what goes down around here......

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You have people on here suggesting that he is akin to Beason and Urlacher. I am surprised that they haven't invoked Sam Mills. Both sides of the equation are probably way over the top. Both sides. But that's what people are failing to realize. In my estimation it is pure lunacy to think that this kid is the next best thing to Mike Singletary. Let's see him up against some top level competition before we crown his ass, either way.

Of course you can't compare a college linebacker, no matter how good, to some of the great middle linebackers in the NFL. Just like you couldn't compare Newton to Brady or Manning coming out of college. But if you look at where each of those guys were at coming out of college to where Kuechly is at the same point in time, he compared very favorably. Does that mean he will be an All-pro linebacker in the NFL? Much too early to tell. But if you have to pick someone in the first round with great potential and a super pedigree, then you have to look no further,

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