Let's Be Honest Here........

[CRA]

they were running the same scheme in 07, around the same time they were starting guys like kawika mitchell at linebacker, while they had like at least 3 starting caliber DEs and two solid starting DTs

LB - Pierce was a pro bowler the year before

LB- Kiwanuka- 1st rounder

they had talent playing LB

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also didn't the steelers just draft 2 first round DLs the past 3 years? Or did they trade them for first round linebackers so they could be at least 5 deep there like Keuchly fans want us to be?

[XClown1986]

it's not nearly as foolish as constantly arguing for drafting a linebacker as if his acquisition will be a panacea for the defense's problems

He wouldn't be a cure-all for the defense, but it is a known fact that most linebackers have success much earlier than most defensive tackles. I could grab some statistics, but I'm lazy and you should know that it's true.

[CRA]

oh btw you just named 3 teams that have about 2 linebackers they drafted in the first round in the last 10 years so lol

By the way, when you have one of the greatest LBs to ever play the game.....you dont need to replace him.

It is about talent. Not how often you draft players. All those top Ds depend on LB talent.....go back and look at there 1st and 2nd round picks. They have drafted LBs at the top of drafts.

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LB - Pierce was a pro bowler the year before

LB- Kiwanuka- 1st rounder

they had talent playing LB

he made it as an alternate

also Kiwanuka was IRed in the middle of the season. based on your argument, they shouldn't have made it with such a loss of talent

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By the way, when you have one of the greatest LBs to ever play the game.....you dont need to replace him.

It is about talent. Not how often you draft players. All those top Ds depend on LB talent.....go back and look at there 1st and 2nd round picks. They have drafted LBs at the top of drafts.

lol why bring up the 2nd round when you guys don't even want to wait that long to draft linebacker

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He wouldn't be a cure-all for the defense, but it is a known fact that most linebackers have success much earlier than most defensive tackles. I could grab some statistics, but I'm lazy and you should know that it's true.

and because most people judge a linebacker's success mostly based on how many tackles they can make, i would say that perception is fallacious and inconsistent

[XClown1986]

and because most people judge a linebacker's success mostly based on how many tackles they can make, i would say that perception is fallacious and inconsistent

Did you watch our defense last year? Tackling players is an immediate upgrade.

You're short-siding Kuechly's ability, but he's not a pro yet, so I understand.

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Did you watch our defense last year? Tackling players is an immediate upgrade.

yes i watched over half of those missed tackles coming from the defensive backs and the remainder being committed by guys we would never start unless we'd been severely depleted like we had been last year, which isn't a common occurrence

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this linebacker had 132 tackles this season, he was successful

this defensive tackle only had 2.5 sacks this season, he wasn't

[CRA]

he made it as an alternate

also Kiwanuka was IRed in the middle of the season. based on your argument, they shouldn't have made it with such a loss of talent

So did Cam, Beason, and tons of other players. Doesn't matter.

Kiwanuka played in 7 of there 10 regular season wins......so yeah, he counts.

[CRA]

lol why bring up the 2nd round when you guys don't even want to wait that long to draft linebacker

I have no issue drafting one in the 2nd round and not the first. Only an issue with drafting a DT at 9

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So did Cam, Beason, and tons of other players. Doesn't matter.

Kiwanuka played in 7 of there 10 regular season wins......so yeah, he counts.

he's also a terrible fit at linebacker overall and had been quoted this year as saying “I do suck. I am a very honest person.”

[XClown1986]

I have no issue drafting one in the 2nd round and not the first. Only an issue with drafting a DT at 9

Thank You! This is the argument Kuechly detractors. DT would be a reach at 9 based on who is going to be available. It's not linebacker vs. DT based on need, it's players available at 9 that would justify the value.