Great draft

[XClown1986]

It would top it off for me if we drafted Ricky Jean-Francois in the 6th. Then I would be happy.

[King Taharqa]

It IS just you, you're the only one who thinks it's as low as '01. I understand people being down about jake's playoff game. I understand people not being happy about the Julius Peppers situation.. but Fan Morale is down to the point where we lost 15 straight? Right... It's DEFINITELY just you.

Correction, people are not down about Jake's playoff game. They are down that he got a raise and extension that guarantees us no chance at a Super Bowl the next few years. Just because 3/4th of the people on here are drinking the electric blue kool aid doesnt mean the entire fanbase is. The Panthers and those homers will learn in 2009 you cant win or progress when half your fanbase doesnt believe in the most important player on your team.

[Seamonk]

Correction, people are not down about Jake's playoff game. They are down that he got a raise and extension that guarantees us no chance at a Super Bowl the next few years. Just because 3/4th of the people on here are drinking the electric blue kool aid doesnt mean the entire fanbase is. The Panthers and those homers will learn in 2009 you cant win or progress when half your fanbase doesnt believe in the most important player on your team.

You, as well as the rest of people don't seem to realize that his extension can be restructured again and again and again so we can cut him without taking a big cap hit. He's going to be around for one more year.. Believe it or not

While people are upset, they'll be happy once he hooks up with steve smith for a touchdown. The only way people continue to dismiss him is if he continues to struggle, in which case you will get your wish and he'll be benched, restructured and eventually let go.

[goodoleboy]

The Panthers and those homers will learn in 2009 you cant win or progress when half your fanbase doesnt believe in the most important player on your team.

What the hell difference does the fanbase make in how the team plays? None.

[King Taharqa]

You, as well as the rest of people don't seem to realize that his extension can be restructured again and again and again so we can cut him without taking a big cap hit. He's going to be around for one more year.. Believe it or not

Jake will be here AT LEAST 3 more years. Jake struggled this year and capped it off with the worst QB playoff performance in recent memory. If that doesnt get him out of the door nothing will. Add in the fact that our owner is not wealthy enough to give guys big extensions then cut them (a la Jerry Jones) and its insane to think he wont be here long. What you have here is a front office and segment of the fanbase that wants a Brett Favre. A guy that will be considered the "saviour" of the franchise and play here til he's 40. There's nothing that John Fox and this FO has shown me in the past 7 years to indicate that they have any long term plans for this franchise post Jake Delhomme. Those who fail to plan, plan to fail.

While people are upset, they'll be happy once he hooks up with steve smith for a touchdown. The only way people continue to dismiss him is if he continues to struggle, in which case you will get your wish and he'll be benched, restructured and eventually let go.

I think the Jake fans will be happy when that happens. I think everybody else will not give him any benefit of the doubt until he goes deep into the playoffs and plays above what he's pretty much played his entire career. My wish aint for Delhomme to be benched or let go. Im beyond that. My wish is that we get an ownership group and front office people who's only goal is to win the Super Bowl. Because ultimately that is what this fanbase and franchise will be judged on. Not how long we stuck with our washed up QB, not how nice our players are, not how friendly our stadium is for opposing fans. But winning! The expectations here are too low (just dont go 1-15 and we're happy!) and the Panthers front office has taken advantage of that for the past decade.

[Seamonk]

Jake will be here AT LEAST 3 more years. Jake struggled this year and capped it off with the worst QB playoff performance in recent memory. If that doesnt get him out of the door nothing will. Add in the fact that our owner is not wealthy enough to give guys big extensions then cut them (a la Jerry Jones) and its insane to think he wont be here long. What you have here is a front office and segment of the fanbase that wants a Brett Favre. A guy that will be considered the "saviour" of the franchise and play here til he's 40. There's nothing that John Fox and this FO has shown me in the past 7 years to indicate that they have any long term plans for this franchise post Jake Delhomme. Those who fail to plan, plan to fail.

I think the Jake fans will be happy when that happens. I think everybody else will not give him any benefit of the doubt until he goes deep into the playoffs and plays above what he's pretty much played his entire career. My wish aint for Delhomme to be benched or let go. Im beyond that. My wish is that we get an ownership group and front office people who's only goal is to win the Super Bowl. Because ultimately that is what this fanbase and franchise will be judged on. Not how long we stuck with our washed up QB, not how nice our players are, not how friendly our stadium is for opposing fans. But winning! The expectations here are too low (just dont go 1-15 and we're happy!) and the Panthers front office has taken advantage of that for the past decade.

So who would you get to replace Delhomme? I understand that this argument is used often. but instead, I will let you pick QBs that are currently on a team, or future prospects. And THEN, tell me why they would help our team and in what ways they are better than Delhomme. In addition to that, tell me how they fit in our offense, and what you expect from them game-to-game.

[Kevin Greene]

KT, we certainly didn't trade up in the second to draft Nate Davis. BUT, if Davis had fallen to us in the 3rd before Miami snapped him up what would your opinion be on this draft?

[Kurb]

I think we still lack an interior pass rush- maybe we'll still make a move for Dwayne Robertson.

I agree.

My only complaint right now.

But Getting Robertson/Darwin Walker back would help a bit.

That's assuming that Robertson actually has some human parts left in his knee, or the NFL allows Bionic's

[KARASMATIC444]

You, as well as the rest of people don't seem to realize that his extension can be restructured again and again and again so we can cut him without taking a big cap hit. He's going to be around for one more year.. Believe it or not

While people are upset, they'll be happy once he hooks up with steve smith for a touchdown. The only way people continue to dismiss him is if he continues to struggle, in which case you will get your wish and he'll be benched, restructured and eventually let go.

^This^

[goodlay]

Im glad the Panthers don't give in to their fans like some organizations do. I also like the aggressive mentality of Hurney once again in this draft. Fox and Hurney are well aware that this franchise has never had consecutive winning seasons, and they are determined to make that happen this year.

[panthersphan]

EXACTLY. People keep saying our FO surely knows more than us so we should continue to blindly trust them. That blind trust is why this FO and ownership group has 0 pressure to bring the big one to Carolina. The front office still hasnt shown us they can put up back to back winning seasons or put some trophies in the case. When they do, I will blindly trust them.

They have the NFC Championship Trophy. And we've been a franchise for not even 15 years...

We could be the Detroit Lions, Cleveland Browns, Houston Texans, Jacksonville Jaguars, or the New Orleans Saints who have ALL never even made the BIG one...and they've been around (besides Houston/Jax) much longer than us...so chill out....

You guys expect way too much and then get mad when we go 12-4 and keep the players that got us there....I think most of you all think you know more, more than Fox and Hurney and that's simply idiotic...

[raleigh-panther]

Just for the record, KT is not the only person not drinking the Fox/Hurney/Delhomme Kool-aid. Much of the news media I have seen, reputable writers, and scouts, say the same thing about Delhomme and he really hasn't done anything to change that opinion.

No one wants Delhomme to fail, no one....as the saying goes though, 'past is prelude'.

Delhomme is here, he will be here until he is dragged out. The problem is there is no one in the wings, there is no alternative and staying competitive in the long run, not just this minute.

Look at the teams in our division, NO = Brees; TB made a move for their future yesterday; and Ryan in Atlanta.

QB is the most important on the field. QBs don't fall from trees.

Atlanta will surpass the Panthers and it won't be long.