Coples Vs. Derrick Harvey (08' Draft Bust)

[Ivan The Awesome]

[Varking]

Just draft J.Clowney. from South Carolina in two years. Rumor has it he wants to play on the same team as Cam and would sign well under value.

[frash.exe]

"hey guys i'm going to find the biggest busts in recent memory with similar specs to coples brb"

[pOpCoRnPoPpEr]

Lol, wow. You think Coples will even be as good as Harvey????

I don't.

[CatMan72]

Coples worries me, but if you have a shot at drafting a potentially elite DE you take it.

[pOpCoRnPoPpEr]

^^^ true Catman.

And his name is Ingram :)

[Herbert The Love Bug]

yeah they both suck

[ClarkCam]

HOLY poo! How did we not see this! Do not deny the truth that is height, weight, and speed!

[Cam's New Arm]

JaMarcus Russell - 6'6 260 lb

Cam Newton - 6'5 250 lb

hmm.. I think you might be onto something, op.

[mg32286]

JaMarcus Russell - 6'6 260 lb

Cam Newton - 6'5 250 lb

hmm.. I think you might be onto something, op.

and one can make plays and one couldn't. No comparison.

Coples is very comparable to Harvey and Jamaal Anderson.

The point of the comparison is just to show that the lack of work ethic and determination is a big deal..

"Hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard"

[amcoolio]

Its a total crapshoot when it comes to DE's. And since Coples shows nothing extraordinary, we should not draft him. Unless he falls to the 2nd round, then he is maybe worth a shot. But I would be livid if we drafted him 9th. He wouldn't be any better than Hardy is for the next couple of years. It'd be a total waste.

[Cam's New Arm]

and one can make plays and one couldn't. No comparison.

Coples is very comparable to Harvey and Jamaal Anderson.

The point of the comparison is just to show that the lack of work ethic and determination is a big deal..

"Hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard"

I think you missed my point. I was basically laughing at you.

But.. in all seriousness, really, I do see where you are coming from. You are comparing their work either more so than their size, ext.

We shall see, I guess.

[MadHatter]

You can look at anyone in the draft and find someone with similar characteristics who ended up being a bust. It doesn't mean that the guy we pick will be a bust or that we shouldn't draft him. Threads like this are a total waste if the intent is to convince the masses whether we should draft him or not.

this.....the OP's comparison is laughable at best.

[Rhys]

I see what the OP is getting at as well, and I also understand the counter argument that you can find anyone comparable and label them a bust.

But anyone saying it's 'laughable' or foolish in some way to make comparisons has a stick up their ass.

It's done all the damn time in the NFL in scouting, acting like this is a completely invalid opinion is asinine.

Just for the record, what is it about Coples that you guys like? Where is your much more enlightened perspective on him as a prospect? Oh that's right, you know as much as any of us know. You just like to act like you know more when half of you idiots wanted nothing to do with Cam and wanted to trade 89 just a year ago.

I hate fugers who come into a thread a type out one bullshit line about how an OPs point is garbage. It's the same douchebags doing it every time too.